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2009-09-03 , 20:26
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#171
@konttori

I know it's difficult to imagine given your perspective why it might seem pointless to have portrait more supported. I can give you my honest testimony.

From presonal experience using a ipod touch, I know that I spend around 60% of the time in portrait mode and 40% in landscape while using the device. Some things are just more comfortable to simply casually do with one hand, and most of my actions are casual.

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2009-09-03 , 20:31
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#172
rofl cap'n, you've said the cursed word... now your opinions will be worthless in this forum
 
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2009-09-03 , 20:36
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#173
Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
The background image issue is not an issue at all: in portrait it becomes an up/down slide rather than a side to side slide. It's actually a more natural motion (IMO) for the thumb anyway (similar to a vertical kenetic scrolling list). The important info (the widgets) would be clearly readable at the correct orientation and easily accessible.
I'm sorry, but are you now really thinking about the problem at all?

Imagine your Home screen in landscape, filled with widgets, with text, going horizontally within the widgets, say one widget being full width on the home canvas; and an image of a wallpaper, say a picture of some seascape.

Now how exactly would that look like in portrait?
 
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#174
Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
I'm sorry, but are you now really thinking about the problem at all?

Imagine your Home screen in landscape, filled with widgets, with text, going horizontally within the widgets, say one widget being full width on the home canvas; and an image of a wallpaper, say a picture of some seascape.
I think you should go back and [re]read some of my previous posts regarding the widgets.

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Now how exactly would that look like in portrait?
Vertical background, horizontal widgets. Don't like it? Blur the background out, or make the background fade to black. Easy.


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#175
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rofl cap'n, you've said the cursed word... now your opinions will be worthless in this forum
This has suddenly got as awkard as me being next to a really hot girl as well my girlfriend....

Can I re-register as Col. Corrupt?

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2009-09-03 , 21:13
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#176
Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
I'm sorry, but are you now really thinking about the problem at all?

Imagine your Home screen in landscape, filled with widgets, with text, going horizontally within the widgets, say one widget being full width on the home canvas; and an image of a wallpaper, say a picture of some seascape.

Now how exactly would that look like in portrait?
Just because some widget with wide lines you don't want to support portrait mode? We totally understand that some widgets are not meant for portrait mode... but give us the choice. If we really want that widget to act well in the portrait mode we will reduce the width and make the single line show in double lines. Dont act like apple and tell us what to do and what not. We totally understand that you had to prioritize your resources. But what we don't like is telling us to use the landscape mode only. We believe the community can easily hack rotation support and everyone will be happy. Just don't tell us what to do and what not.
 
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2009-09-03 , 21:53
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#177
Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
  • Changing tracks while jogging after pulling the unit from the pocket. Jogging with both hands tied up is very difficult.
  • Changing tracks while riding a bike. Ok with one hand, dangerous with 2. Generally I quickly skip tracks, not play with playlists, and I often do this without looking, on empty rural roads. It's rather safe
  • Using the device as a 'remote control' for ones PVR or HTPC.
OI,

Jogging is one of the main sports I perform. Instead of using an iPod touch with Nike+ for jogging I'd rather have a device like an iPod nano with my favourite jogging tracks. It is very easy to skip a trick with iPod nano. However what is really nice on iPod is the way it big brother takes track of your music taste. Rating, most played tracks, playlists, favourite tracks, browse on genre/artist/album, and so on.

Now, during jogging there is one thing I want to do and that is: jogging. I don't want to take device out of my pocket (do you know how **** that runs?), look on my touchscreen instead of concentrating, or skip through huge lists of music to find that one track I want to hear. That is why I have an armholster for my iPod touch. Mind you, the thing is still too heavy to be comfortable, but it works. I could control the iPod touch from my arm, but during running that isn't feasable and the accelerometer keeps hesitating back and forth.

Instead, while running I pick a 'mix' (something long which already is mixed and good) or I control the iPod music using my wrist watch remote control. This would easily work for Nokia N900 as well. In fact, I'd say voice commands are in future the only viable way to control your music player during sports.

For remote control I understand, but that is just legacy issues. You don't have to point the device to the PVR or whatever as it goes via WiFi or BlueTooth. It does not matter in which way you hold or point the device, and the touchscreen buttons can be shown in either way.

IO.

Originally Posted by ysss View Post
How is the background orientation becomes a problem?

It should rotate along with the rest of the on screen items. Just like paintings hung with string to nails on a wall, they just follow gravity.
Almost no backgrounds are 1:1. 800x480 resolution is not 1:1. So your background is not exactly the same anymore. While for some backgrounds this won't matter, for many it will.

Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
Just because some widget with wide lines you don't want to support portrait mode? We totally understand that some widgets are not meant for portrait mode... but give us the choice. If we really want that widget to act well in the portrait mode we will reduce the width and make the single line show in double lines. Dont act like apple and tell us what to do and what not. We totally understand that you had to prioritize your resources. But what we don't like is telling us to use the landscape mode only. We believe the community can easily hack rotation support and everyone will be happy. Just don't tell us what to do and what not.
Well with the source open we as community have that freedom. Just don't expect Nokia to plan to deliver such unpolished experiences to the default experience. Do you see it before you, someone trying out the device and experiencing some ugliness like this? Certain media like Engarde would love to write about that.
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#178
Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt View Post
I think you should go back and [re]read some of my previous posts regarding the widgets.
I'd rather have no portrait mode on the Desktop screen than being able to only have two widgets on it which cannot be wider than 400 Pixels. Think RSS reader or twitter widget - I'd want them as wide as possible.

Or let me have three or four widgets on one Desktop.

How is that supposed to look when rotated to portrait mode?
 
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2009-09-03 , 22:16
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#179
Originally Posted by range View Post
I'd rather have no portrait mode on the Desktop screen than being able to only have two widgets on it which cannot be wider than 400 Pixels. Think RSS reader or twitter widget - I'd want them as wide as possible.

Or let me have three or four widgets on one Desktop.

How is that supposed to look when rotated to portrait mode?
You could always disable what you don't need.
 
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2009-09-03 , 22:22
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#180
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You could always disable what you don't need.
Like Portrait Mode?
 
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