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	Jack6428	2009-09-24 , 22:55
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Originally Posted by twaelti

Not just entertained, but getting some ideas about the remaining rough edges that make such an experienced power user like eldar uneasy?
Some quotes from his review:
No MMS, no matter how ridiculous it sounds

(Audio player) other disadvantages include the lever is adjustable sound on the screen, it is too small, awkward, easier to use the side buttons

(Video player) Unfortunately, there is also affected by haste, in particular, the developers have not thought buffering the stream, in the first 10 seconds of video ragged, swinging.

These issues seem crucial, it will seriously make the N900 look bad. Good thing Eldar wrote those down. Now i'm never buying the N900, that's for sure.

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	kopte3	2009-09-24 , 23:14
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Why so sarcastic and negative? Read the bloody review, he said a lot of good stuff about it and he was open-minded, not like many guys present here that can't say anything bad at all because they'll never be a tester for Nokia again. I trust him more than i trust 100 Nokia testers. And if somebody gave him his N900, how did Eldar stole it?
Many guys here just love to act smart. How can you know better than him if you never saw device in your life? And he's holding it from May. BTW he's holding an N920 right now. I read somewhere he's drama queen. Yeah right. What a bunch of BS.
I do trust him, but on the other side i believe Nokia will start shipping phones without major bugs and constant crashes.

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	zerojay	2009-09-24 , 23:18
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Originally Posted by kopte3

Many guys here just love to act smart. How can you know better than him if you never saw device in your life?

There's a reason why some people are acting like they know better. Think about it a little bit.

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	Jack6428	2009-09-24 , 23:24
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Originally Posted by kopte3

Why so sarcastic and negative? Read the bloody review, he said a lot of good stuff about it and he was open-minded, not like many guys present here that can't say anything bad at all because they'll never be a tester for Nokia again. I trust him more than i trust 100 Nokia testers. And if somebody gave him his N900, how did Eldar stole it?
Many guys here just love to act smart. How can you know better than him if you never saw device in your life? And he's holding it from May. BTW he's holding an N920 right now. I read somewhere he's drama queen. Yeah right. What a bunch of BS.
I do trust him, but on the other side i believe Nokia will start shipping phones without major bugs and constant crashes.

Why not? Those 3 points listed above are things that don't matter at all, nothing important, so i don't really see a reason why he even mentioned them. No MMS? We can live with that and a update can fix that, right?. Problems adjusting sound? That's just him being clumsy. Streams lagging the first 10 seconds? Completely normal even on PC. That's why i replied how i replied, unnecessary stupid points. I'll be happy to read it when he puts it up in English. I read his N900 preview when it came out and he knows how to write and i enjoyed reading it, so don't get me started here. But when he says his unit has errors and is crashing i don't trust him, because it's just him having old firmware or old hardware or a faulty unit. I am absolutely confident the final version of the phone will be simply awesome, because he is the only one making a fuzz about having problems. And about him and the N920. If he has it (which i am quite sure he does), why mention it even in the first place this early? And one more thing - why so serious? xD

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	allnameswereout	2009-09-24 , 23:33
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Originally Posted by kopte3

I trust him more than i trust 100 Nokia testers.

So if 100 Nokia testers say X, and 1 Elder says Y, you believe Elder? Typical.

Some here have hold the device. And some here have the device but are under NDA.

He has a N920? Where is the proof?

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	Texrat	2009-09-24 , 23:47
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This is good stuff, but I'm out of peanuts.

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nilchak	2009-09-24 , 23:49
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Originally Posted by zerojay

There's a reason why some people are acting like they know better. Think about it a little bit.

All good, but till the moment they are under the damned NDA and cant really tell anything in specificity, its worth nothing.

The fact that they have a device doesn't count at all, unless you can say something about the device, ain't it

Untill then its just "acting".

So if you are under an NDA, just keep quite and dont belittle the other reviewers who are not under the same NDA - based on review quality.
I understand the Eldar criticism based on his "stolen" device and old software/hardware - thats valid - but at least lend some credence to his review. Thats all.

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	GeneralAntilles	2009-09-24 , 23:50
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Originally Posted by nilchak

All good, but till the moment they are under the damned NDA and cant really tell anything in specificity, its worth nothing.

The fact that they have a device doesn't count at all, unless you can say something about the device, ain't it Untill then its just "acting".

So if you are under an NDA, just keep quite and dont belittle the other reviewers who are not under the same NDA - based on review quality.
I understand the Eldar criticism based on his "stolen" device and old software/hardware - thats valid - but at least lend some credence to his review. Thats all.

lol? . . .

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nilchak	2009-09-24 , 23:51
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Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat

IMHO I think it's odd that all these new users seem to be coming out of the woodwork to defend the man.

We had best leave him be, his army is amassing.........

Hey, lets not take sides here. I am in the TMO camp, but am open to listen to all. I thing we can all make the final judgement call when we ourselves have a device in our hands.