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See this thread -> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33325
There's the same conversation going on.
There's the same conversation going on.
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Originally Posted by luca
Hell Microsoft wouldn't exist. I believe Bill Gates even pointed it out himself.
"Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh"
I'll add that it could do so only because at that time nobody cared about software patents.
Today apple wouldn't have a chance to exist.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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http://www.betanews.com/article/Appl...nts/1260559533
Err...the n800 came out in Jan. 2007. The first iPhone came out in June 29, 2007. Then you have the 770 which came out 2005-11-03. (dates from Wikipedia).
So the only thing Apple has in their example that predated the Nokia tablets is the iPod. Which came out 23 October 2001.
Some of the patents Apple is claiming Nokia infringes.
But anyway, I've already echoed my opinion before. The whole patent system is a joke.
Apple foresaw the importance of converged user-friendly mobile devices...designed a business strategy based on the convergence of personal computers, mobile communications, and digital consumer electronics, and produced...devices such as the iPod, iPod Touch and the iPhone.
So the only thing Apple has in their example that predated the Nokia tablets is the iPod. Which came out 23 October 2001.
Apple singles out the 5310, E71, N900 by name, but includes the Series 40, S60 and Symbian platforms, Carbide C++ (because it's developed in an environment that enables the compiler to generate a GUI), and any Nokia product that identifies itself through USB.
But anyway, I've already echoed my opinion before. The whole patent system is a joke.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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They'll end up cross licensing each others' technologies. Apple is no worse than Nokia wrto using others' ideas. (google qualcomm sues nokia)
The reason why Nokia is suing Apple and not the other way around is because Nokia has been losing money and market share while Apple's star is shining brighter than ever before.
The reason why Nokia is suing Apple and not the other way around is because Nokia has been losing money and market share while Apple's star is shining brighter than ever before.
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Nokia Communicator, which allready did most things Apple claims iPhone to have brought to mobile market, was released in 1996.
Err...the n800 came out in Jan. 2007. The first iPhone came out in June 29, 2007. Then you have the 770 which came out 2005-11-03. (dates from Wikipedia).
Originally Posted by OrangeBox
Sorry, but that's just silly. Even Apple's own court documents state that they started negotiating before Apple even had marketshare. This thing is going to court because they couldn't get an agreement on licensing terms.
The reason why Nokia is suing Apple and not the other way around is because Nokia has been losing money and market share while Apple's star is shining brighter than ever before.
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Gah. Some of those patent descriptions make me really question the system...
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
Yup, Apple basically did the same thing Nokia did. They basically went through a 3rd party company that paid the licensing fee. I forget who Nokia went through, but Apple is going through Foxconn.
They'll end up cross licensing each others' technologies. Apple is no worse than Nokia wrto using others' ideas. (google qualcomm sues nokia)
Edit: See Texrat's post below for who Nokia used.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Nokia used Foxconn and Compal.
Yup, Apple basically did the same thing Nokia did. They basically went through a 3rd party company that paid the licensing fee. I forget who Nokia went through, but Apple is going through Foxcomm.
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I'll add that it could do so only because at that time nobody cared about software patents.
Today apple wouldn't have a chance to exist.