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2009-11-07
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
That is great! Another nice thing is we can take our phones to other countries and they work. As soon as I land at London Gatwick and turn my phone back on it say "Vodafone" at the top and will switch carriers depending on where I am at.
True, it really depends on where you live. I lucked out, all the areas I am in 99% of the time in the USA, TMobile covers with 3G access. So I rather not pay alot more money for Verizon when the phone doesn't work outside of the USA (I plan on using my n900 in other countries when I have time to travel), and it would cost me more monthly. I'll take the 1% of the time using Edge for those benefits.
I do not think many Verizon phones including Droid can do that. Still, the 3G is fast
. I want my, I want my 3Geeeeeeee. Did Dire Straits sing that 
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Originally Posted by Rushmore
The Blackberries on Verizon sometimes come with cdma and gsm. But most devices on Verizon including Droid (though there is a GSM equivilent) are CDMA only. Oh you still need to buy a SIM from whatever country your in otherwise your going pay out the wazoo!!
That is great! Another nice thing is we can take our phones to other countries and they work. As soon as I land at London Gatwick and turn my phone back on it say "Vodafone" at the top and will switch carriers depending on where I am at.
I do not think many Verizon phones including Droid can do that. Still, the 3G is fast
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-11-07
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Originally Posted by Rushmore
Not necessarily. T-Mobile has the newest, fastest 3G equipment and is building at a truly furious pace. They're on on pace to close the coverage gap with AT&T by roughly the end of 2010 and will have built a far superior network. T-Mobile's 3G here is nearly as large as AT&T's 3G already. And much faster.
The problem with Tmo is pee poor 3G coverage...You get what you pay for...
With...Verizon...I would have 3G everywhere.
Edit: I should add that from years of experience, Veri$on's 3G coverage maps of our area are a joke, bordering on an outright lie. Extremely optimistic to say the least.
Also consider since Veri$on uses CDMA you cannot do voice + data simultaneously. CDMA 3G works like Edge (2G) in that way. Doesn't matter for our notebooks but it does on a phone like the N900. I would never use CDMA service for a phone. That's why 12 years ago I choose Aerial (aka Voicestream aka T-Mo) over Sprint, to get GSM service.
I'll be trashing Veri$on on our notebooks as soon as it's practical, probably in about a year.
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2009-11-07
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
They used to not care.
T-Mobile generally won't care if you tether your device
They changed their terms of service last summer. Tethering is no longer allowed. At all.
Sure, they have to catch you at it ... and no word right now that they're looking for it*. But, if it comes up (or if you press them on some service issue and they'd rather not follow through on it), they can say "you violated the TOS, we're cutting you loose".
(* and they probably only care in their 3G areas)
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Originally Posted by Crashdamage
Would that be because sometimes you get 1xRTT in areas they say you should get EVDO?
Edit: I should add that from years of experience, Veri$on's 3G coverage maps of our area are a joke, bordering on an outright lie. Extremely optimistic to say the least.
Verizon is playing a tricky nitpicking game, both with their customers, and in those "there's a map for that" commercials.
1xRTT is, according to some, a 3G protocol. Therefore, they're not lying. You're getting 3G coverage anywhere you get 1xRTT service. It's crappy/slow/laggy 3G service, but it's 3G service. And, thus, their 3G map is MUCH more inclusive than AT&T's 3G map (because EDGE definitely isn't a 3G protocol).
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Originally Posted by SD69
No, not correct. It's not a technical problem. Many T-Mobile branded phones _will_ do tethering. And there's no technical thing that prevents you from doing it with an unlocked/unbranded phone.
But this is not a problem if you bring your own unlocked, unbranded, smartphone to T-Mo US, correct?
The issue is that it's a blatant violation of the new (as of summer 2008) terms of service. If they notice that you're doing it, you're fodder for cancellation. Go over the 10GB data cap any time after they've detected you as doing tethering? maybe they'll throttle you, or maybe they'll cancel you because "you violated the TOS by tethering".
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
Good to know, though given a device like the n900 can be pretty much used like a computer I don't think there's anyway you could reliably differentiate traffic.
They used to not care.
They changed their terms of service last summer. Tethering is no longer allowed. At all.
Sure, they have to catch you at it ... and no word right now that they're looking for it*. But, if it comes up (or if you press them on some service issue and they'd rather not follow through on it), they can say "you violated the TOS, we're cutting you loose".
(* and they probably only care in their 3G areas)
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-11-07
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
You pass your traffic through their proxy. They could be doing things like watching the browser's signature to see whether or not you're using the built-in browser, vs. a desktop browser. I mean, if you've got Safari or Internet Explorer signature tags in your traffic, that's pretty clearly not your N900 :-)
Good to know, though given a device like the n900 can be pretty much used like a computer I don't think there's anyway you could reliably differentiate traffic.
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
I think this is a bit askew. Here is the actual TOS language:
The issue is that it's a blatant violation of the new (as of summer 2008) terms of service.
16. * Misuse of Service or Device. You agree not to misuse the Service or any Device, including: (a) reselling or rebilling our Service; (b) using the Service or Device to engage in unlawful activity, or engaging in conduct that adversely affects our customers, employees, business, or any other person(s), or that interferes with our operations, network, reputation, or ability to provide quality service; (c) tampering with or modifying your Device; (d) "spamming" or engaging in other abusive or unsolicited communications; (e) reselling T-Mobile Devices for profit, or tampering with, reprogramming or altering Devices for the purpose of reselling the Device; or (f) assisting or facilitating anyone else in any of the above activities. You agree that you won't install, deploy, or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate a transmitted RF signal. You agree that a violation of this section harms T-Mobile, which cannot be fully redressed by money damages, and that T-Mobile shall be entitled to immediate injunctive relief in addition to all other remedies available.
- I said only Iphone 2G and 3G, not all of them.
- I said all versions of the N95:s, not only the classic one
Now, why would I say something like that? Just a wild guess, but perhaps because the N95:s were mostly sold in 2007-2008, and so were the two first Iphones!?
That's the most fair and balansed comparison I could find for this topic. If you want to include all Iphones, then you can include all other Nseries phones as well...
And just for your own knowledge: the N95:s outsold the Qualcomm Iphones, believe it or not until you find proof for it being otherwise.
How can Android eclipse something that's not even out yet (it's about mobile OS, tablets are not included, you know)? You mean that Maemo won't catch up, right?
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