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2009-12-27
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#172
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
I have no idea what you mean by state sanctioned. All companies are sanctioned by the state they're incorporated in.
I knew rightaway that I should've put "or" before oligopolies. Of course oligopolies are not the same as monopolies. And I actually never said state run or state sponsored monopolies. What I said was "state sanctioned" - a big difference.
Is BT or Tata global companies? HSBC is I agree with that one, but it is well represented both in US and Canada, so you can cross it off of your list. Not sure how much water HT stirs but your list is rather the exception and not the rule.
This is getting tedious. Your original request was for :
give me an example of long running successful companies that could afford to ignore the US market.
Now your latest iteration is multinational companies that don't operate in the US - that's quite a different proposition but there's still plenty. As you say they're always going to be the exception to the rule - but when you keep changing the requirements each time I post it's a pointless task.
You asked for somebody to name successful companies that have succeeded without penetration in the US market. I've done that.
Thank you and goodnight.
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2009-12-27
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#173
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this thread and the n900 is starting to annoy me--nothing useful for the tablet---just bugs
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2009-12-27
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#174
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
Ok. What in the name of...?
.....You'll notice that as you depress, the phone screen portion would slide up from the keyboard.
When this happens, you will naturally try to support the phone not from the buttom, but from the end (screen side). The problem with this is that you will inadvertantly press something with the back of your thumb, from which the only way to exit out is to use your left hand.
In other words while it is possible to take a pic with one hand only it really takes a lot of practice and it is cumbersome. Hope this explains my frustration.
I can't reproduce your problem. Sorry.
I even tried couple of very awkward positions with my fingers but every time i could take picture quite easily.
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2009-12-27
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#175
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Originally Posted by wizbowes
Thanks for your response. State sanctioned monopolies and oligopolies form and remain in operation where the state has weak antitrust legislation and enforcement or decides to allow it because of political reasons. This basically means that the state lets these entities to operate even though it limits competition. The example you gave (British Telecom, Gazprom) are certainly state sanctioned (read approved).
I have no idea what you mean by state sanctioned. All companies are sanctioned by the state they're incorporated in.
This is getting tedious. Your original request was for :
give me an example of long running successful companies that could afford to ignore the US market.
Now your latest iteration is multinational companies that don't operate in the US - that's quite a different proposition but there's still plenty. As you say they're always going to be the exception to the rule - but when you keep changing the requirements each time I post it's a pointless task.
You asked for somebody to name successful companies that have succeeded without penetration in the US market. I've done that.
Thank you and goodnight.
Nevertheless, you started to comment on something I wrote out of context. The whole discussion started at the global fight between smartphone OSes. It would certainly not make sense to ask someone to come up with a national company that is successful (ie each country's national post service). What I was arguing was when a global fight erupts for dominance in an industry (like next gen smartphone os, desktop os, search engine, etc), the American market has been a good indicator for the outcome. You may come up with examples, but none of those you provided so far compete at the global level, so they have no bearing on the US market.
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2009-12-27
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#176
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Originally Posted by slender
Thanks for trying. As I wrote earlier I have large fingers which should theoretically make this easier and not harder (more skin surface to lay the bottom part against). Anyways I'm happy that you're ok. Can you please verify that you have never accidentally tapped on the screen with your right thumb when supporting it in the second scenario? It is hard to imagine as the phone does not turn off the tap sensitivity during taking a picture. My count is 4 out of 10 when this happens. Just tried it now.
Ok. What in the name of...?
I can't reproduce your problem. Sorry.
I even tried couple of very awkward positions with my fingers but every time i could take picture quite easily.
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2009-12-27
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#177
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
Sorry in what BT are state sanctioned and in what way is the UK telecom limited in competition? The UK telecoms market is one of the most open in the world. Google is your friend.
This basically means that the state lets these entities to operate even though it limits competition. The example you gave (British Telecom, Gazprom) are certainly state sanctioned (read approved).
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2009-12-27
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#178
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So we're going to the countryside tomorrow. I have started to use the Maps application and here are the annoying things:
1. it keeps downloading and downloading. If I zoom in it downloads. If I zoom out it downloads. Even if I move to an area it downloaded before it downloads it again. This is ok via wifi, but tomorrow I'll be on the road and I can't have ridiculous data roaming charges, so I don't know what'll happen.
2. it is slow. 12 seconds to load the app is way too much.
3. managed to crash it several times. All you have to do to reproduce it is to create a route (waypoints A and B) and try adding a third one (stopover). 2 out of 4 times it crashes.
4. there is no way to delete or change the order of waypoints.
5. there is no way to delete waypoint A (current gps location) and because of this and item 4 a route between two arbitrary points can't be calculated.
6. when adding a waypoint from the map it adds it as the country name
That's it for now. Btw i like the canned zoom levels (street, city, province, country)
1. it keeps downloading and downloading. If I zoom in it downloads. If I zoom out it downloads. Even if I move to an area it downloaded before it downloads it again. This is ok via wifi, but tomorrow I'll be on the road and I can't have ridiculous data roaming charges, so I don't know what'll happen.
2. it is slow. 12 seconds to load the app is way too much.
3. managed to crash it several times. All you have to do to reproduce it is to create a route (waypoints A and B) and try adding a third one (stopover). 2 out of 4 times it crashes.
4. there is no way to delete or change the order of waypoints.
5. there is no way to delete waypoint A (current gps location) and because of this and item 4 a route between two arbitrary points can't be calculated.
6. when adding a waypoint from the map it adds it as the country name
That's it for now. Btw i like the canned zoom levels (street, city, province, country)
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2009-12-27
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#179
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Originally Posted by wizbowes
Oh yes I know I know. We have the same illusion here in Canada with Bell Canada. So BT has no naturally inherited copper wires that were originally paid for by the tax payers or any other competitive advantage that is a result of them being the first telecom operator run by the UK government? I may be mistaken with this one, but Gazprom for sure is a state sanctioned monopoly.
Sorry in what BT are state sanctioned and in what way is the UK telecom limited in competition? The UK telecoms market is one of the most open in the world. Google is your friend.
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2009-12-27
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#180
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Originally Posted by yukop4
well throw me a bone (topic) and let's discuss it. Why don't you start talking about what annoys you about the n900?
this thread and the n900 is starting to annoy me--nothing useful for the tablet---just bugs
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form a reversed C with your right hand where your thumb is on the bottom and the other 4 fingers are on the top. Then with your left hand place the N900 in the opening of the C, so that the bottom of the phone rests on your thumb. Then if you try to make a pic with your one hand (right only) you will notice that you have to balance the whole phone on your thumb. As you depress the shutter with your index finger, you want to ensure that the phone doesn't shake, so basically you're whole hand has to stiff up. You'll notice that as you depress, the phone screen portion would slide up from the keyboard.
When this happens, you will naturally try to support the phone not from the buttom, but from the end (screen side). The problem with this is that you will inadvertantly press something with the back of your thumb, from which the only way to exit out is to use your left hand.
In other words while it is possible to take a pic with one hand only it really takes a lot of practice and it is cumbersome. Hope this explains my frustration.