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Viipottaja	2010-03-09 , 16:51
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Eitama, I meant it a dry humored compliment - I think you are absolutely right (I even thanked you for your comment). Perhaps your response to me was also meant in the same bone dry humored sense.

russo_br	2010-03-09 , 16:55
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I would like very much if they separate Ovi Maps package from the FW build and distribute it through apt/App Manager... That's how it is being done now on Symbian version, I don't know why it isn't the same way with Maemo...

	jcompagner	2010-03-09 , 16:59
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Originally Posted by russo_br

I would like very much if they separate Ovi Maps package from the FW build and distribute it through apt/App Manager... That's how it is being done now on Symbian version, I don't know why it isn't the same way with Maemo...

but that is also true for Modest and MicroB......
Those should be apps that shouldnt be tied to a firmware release...

Cthulhu	2010-03-10 , 13:17
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Originally Posted by russo_br

I am pretty sure the PR1.2 will be based on a version 10.2010.08-XX, since it was the build with the most number of builds I've found, being the latest build 10.2010.08-23 the latest (Source: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9182). 23 builds within one week doesn't seem feasible...

So following this reasoning, PR1.2 will not include fixes from 10.2010.10-2 (Source: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9460), since it's newer and only been built twice (at the time of closing the referenced bug)?

While I understand your logic behind this reasoning, I fear it might not hold true.

Anyways, looking forward to official Qt 4.6, when PR1.2 finally arrives.

pisthpeeps	2010-03-10 , 13:24
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Actually we can have two speculations - when PR 1.2 wud be released globally & when it wud be released in UK.

planetf1	2010-03-10 , 14:15
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I'd much prefer to see most of the system just distributed as .deb .rpm updates -- that's how desktop linux works?

Just like with apps (and like ubuntu or fedora) there should be multiple channels - a "stable" version which may only get rolled-up fixes -- the equiv of a PR 1.1 bundle, and perhaps another version with more recent, but tested fixes.

Why do we need a monolithic "firmware" - only reasons I can see are
- for updating the real device firmware, bootloader etc
- to provide for a faster recovery ie a complete re-install

Rob1n	2010-03-10 , 14:33
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Originally Posted by planetf1

I'd much prefer to see most of the system just distributed as .deb .rpm updates -- that's how desktop linux works?

Just like with apps (and like ubuntu or fedora) there should be multiple channels - a "stable" version which may only get rolled-up fixes -- the equiv of a PR 1.1 bundle, and perhaps another version with more recent, but tested fixes.

Why do we need a monolithic "firmware" - only reasons I can see are
- for updating the real device firmware, bootloader etc
- to provide for a faster recovery ie a complete re-install

Ummm, the system is distributed as a set of .deb updates. If you do the OTA update, what you're getting is a whole load of .deb files. To simplify the process, most of these are hidden, and it's just the top-level maemo5 update you see (which depends on all the other updates, so pulls them in automatically).

	felbutss	2010-03-10 , 14:36
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you know what! I have learn't and accepted that I love being a beta tester and having buggy software. If I didn’t then why am I still buying nokia?? I play with my n900 all the time and it never gets boring. I got bored of my free ipod touch when it first came out within 2 weeks. Everything was done and too easy for me to enjoy it and play with. I love manual and not auto.

russo_br	2010-03-10 , 18:12
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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

So following this reasoning, PR1.2 will not include fixes from 10.2010.10-2 (Source: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9460), since it's newer and only been built twice (at the time of closing the referenced bug)?

While I understand your logic behind this reasoning, I fear it might not hold true.

Anyways, looking forward to official Qt 4.6, when PR1.2 finally arrives.

As I mentioned on another thread we haven't seen any relevant news in the past weeks... no FW update, practically no increase of apps on Ovi Store, few new apps on Extras-Devel, etc... So we have plenty time to spare speculating in order to relief our anxiety!!

Some of the early adopters already gave up and sold their N900... Just the strong are surviving!!

Viipottaja	2010-03-10 , 18:30
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Felbutss, I am (kinda) with you! I bought the N900 knowing and looking forward to improvements - that's a big part of why its exiting. I must admit though I did not expect nor look forward to so many bugs.