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#171
Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
Considering the above and that they now have one of their own at the top of power at Nokia, what do you think M$ would be willing to do to get WinPhone 7 as the OS on a worldwide market as huge as Nokia's? To deliver Windows gaming, Exchange, Office, Bing, cloud services, etc. etc. to that market?

And what is Nokia willing to do to make a major dent in the North American Market? Well, we know now at minimum giving the CEO job to a M$ lackey. Does it include WinPhone 7? Betcha it does...
microsoft part I agree but Nokia part... so they skip all service stuff and start selling arse to WM7 as a bulk manufacturer?
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#172
Originally Posted by mmurfin87 View Post
WP7 won't tank. I don't think you all understand just what is being unleashed on the world.
Microsoft's attempt to be Apple in the mobile space, that's what.

OSS is nice and we can all dream about it
I'd rather not "dream" because I don't have to now. Microsoft would rather I dream, or start shelling out dollars to live in their DRM encrusted world. I don't like it when I'm told I have to use a locked down system and pay other people money to use my property as I wish. Apple and MS are trying to stuff the cat back in the bag, one I'm sure they wish they could have kept in 30+ years ago.

Its a a confluence of technologies and services the likes of which just don't exist under an open source license.
Short of MS playing anti-competitive monopolist again I don't see why it can't.
 

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#173
Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
All of which will apply to their WP7 push. Worked before to conquer the world, can work again.
It worked before because when MS-DOS/PC-DOS was introduced there were practically no alternatives, once it gained a foothold it went viral (standardisation). When a superior competitor appeared (Dr-DOS), used all manner of dubious and most likely illegal tactics to beat them, including forcing manufacturers to pay for MS-DOS whether or not they shipped their machines with it. Having killed Digital Research (and hence GEM - a GUI) there was no competition for Windows and thus MS extended its stranglehold on the marketplace. The mobile market today is very different to the computer market of 30 years ago. Plenty of superior competition and no conceivable way for MS to apply lock-in except to a small segment of the market. Only way for MS to achieve dominance is if they somehow patented the act of making a phone call.

Yes, absolutely. Most users are either ignorant or unconcerned about such things. It's not slowing down Android.
Sometimes people make a compromised choice - you sell your soul to Jobs in return for a flashy interface, you sell your soul to Google in return for useful useful and mostly top-notch apps (gmail, google maps). What do you get in return for selling your soul to MS? Buggy, power-hungry, bloated, crashy crap?
 

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#174
Originally Posted by kureyon View Post
Sometimes people make a compromised choice - you sell your soul to Jobs in return for a flashy interface, you sell your soul to Google in return for useful useful and mostly top-notch apps (gmail, google maps). What do you get in return for selling your soul to MS? Buggy, power-hungry, bloated, crashy crap?
this is an extremely ignorant arrogant and elitist statement - snobbish in the extreme

you go talk to a non technical joe 6 pack about their android or iPhone and ask them what it feels like to sell heir soul....

... bet you they will look at you like you are an idiot - back away - and say 'right...'

see to j6p its a JUST A phone which is just an appliance - to many the compromise is minor and is not "selling your soul"

so tell if the user doesnt care - how is that going to factor into their purchase decision ?

ppl like u have been in this forum too long u need to get out and talk to actual normal ppl who these phones are targetted towards
 

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#175
Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post
this is an extremely ignorant arrogant and elitist statement - snobbish in the extreme
Regardless, doesn't make it any less true. Throughout history the ignorant masses have been exploited by the less ignorant.

you go talk to a non technical joe 6 pack about their android or iPhone and ask them what it feels like to sell heir soul....
Ah they are the ones who don't even know they have sold their soul The informed are the ones who make a compromised decision.
 

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#176
Originally Posted by kureyon View Post
The informed are the ones who make a compromised decision.
You're talking as if the FOSS (not even) solutions are already perfect and at a features/performance parity to the competing proprietary solutions.

That's not the case now, is it?
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If you're bored, this thread is a fun reread.
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#178
Damn, I hoped it was ELOP
 

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Elop resigned? yippie ya yeah!!

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Now, bumping this thread was evil!
 

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