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So is there any way to play 480p videos on YouTube on the N900 or not?
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2010-12-31
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I must be the only one happy about the flash situation, not really a big you tube fan but mine works just fine..I added Tweak flash plug in and hide user agent and the plug-in for firefox and they both play fine..the only thing i noted is that i can't change the frame rate in firefox as it seems to stay at 240 (think that's the lowest one) but it plays fine depending on my connection, now google is a different sorry if I take out or disable the hide user agent it only lets me play at 240 with the plug-in enable it lets me play all the frame rates but the higher ones are choppy but I have a terrible wifi connection at my apartment building..
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2010-12-31
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Originally Posted by attila77
Quite wrong. Adobe made it available for the vendors, it's their job to place it into either their update process (OTA or otherwise) or make it available via the app store; if at all. The vendor/manufacturer makes the final decision if it's available for their platform.
Actually that's a Yes, Yes, Yes. Adobe did most of the work because they wanted to get back at Apple, Google financed development and provided Android expertise and in the end Motorola paid the royalties. Had a single one of those lack motivation, there would be no Flash (just as it failed to materialize anything other than Android), so...
Nokia made that decision for you. They didn't make it available for whatever reason that will make people rest easy at night - didn't want to pay royalties, didn't want to test it, didn't like the performance, didn't want to pay for more optimization work by Adobe, didn't want to optimize it themselves... whatever.
Google lightened the amount of how much OS level optimization was necessary by the vendors since they're the "controllers" of the OS. Who's the controller of Maemo?
Exactly.
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I mean... it's a pocketable computer, right? It should be able to handle lil' ol' Flash.
The point was that it is (and will be) a battle for each version of the player, for each OS version, for each device. Flash was dandy on the Maemo in the FP9 days. Flash 10.1 is dandy on (most) current Android devices. Flash 11 will be dandy on who knows what. It's a total lottery, depends on who will have the biggest $$$ case at the moment. Ceterum censeo, the current Flash Player distribution process delendam esse.
Browsers? Cost money to develop and append newer technology. Plugins? The little word called progress means that research and development as well as OS optimization will always be a part of the ordeal.
There's no lottery - that's perhaps made up. The fact that the prior generation - of which the N900 is on the cusp of - got obsolete quicker than anticipated and Adobe (and many others) started to go from 400-600mhz on the ARM platform to 800-1000mhz instead was due to either: lack of ability to optimize their bloated code on slower processes, their lack of willingness to backport to a minority or machines whereas many others were coming out that were faster, or ultimately they didn't just know how.
I mean... I dunno. Should I be more pissed off that my machine I bought a year ago is no longer supported by either the manufacturer or the vendors that have taken a cue from the manufacturer and raised their requirements to possibly what that manufacturer will have out soon enough?
That last bit of communication happens mostly business to business. Adobe knew what WebOS 2 was going to bring from the OS to the hardware. Adobe knew what Android was going to bring from the OS to the hardware. Adobe didn't know that Nokia was going to do... so they finished their work, handed it off to Nokia... and nothing happened.
A lot of people are upset about not getting FP10. A lot of people are upset at the wrong people. If TI got it and is releasing it in a totally unoptimized format, then why didn't Nokia do the same? Or better yet... where is the Nokia version that Adobe handed out to them?
Those questions are the right ones. Not some hackneyed and ill-aimed inquiry that goes back to Adobe. They did the work. Just like Microsoft did the work for Mozilla pertaining H.264 and playback whereas Mozilla didn't want to pay that license.
Nokia didn't release jack. Fix that.
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2010-12-31
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Originally Posted by gerbick
thats a very smart question, i'll say its the awesome community over here .
...since they're the "controllers" of the OS. Who's the controller of Maemo?
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Originally Posted by elie-7
It hasn't been fully transferred to this community. Not yet.
thats a very smart question, i'll say its the awesome community over here .
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2011-01-01
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Originally Posted by gerbick
how awesome woulded it be if they do, wouldn't we get flash 10 than ? i don't mind paying the ' royalities '
It hasn't been fully transferred to this community. Not yet.
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2011-01-01
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Naw, see, it got to nowhere fast and set up camp there.
180 pages is fast?
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Originally Posted by elie-7
Doubtful closed source items like Flash and Skype will ever see any improvement, or distribution with the community based efforts to maintain Maemo.
how awesome woulded it be if they do, wouldn't we get flash 10 than ? i don't mind paying the ' royalities '
But you better believe items like Modest will be improved upon.
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