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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by Artyom
Have you tried any of the new Lumias?
I would really like to hear the basis of that statement.
Oh wait! There is no basis. Just another "claim" that you've said like 98698 times like a broken record.
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2013-08-25
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Here is what one of the people in this forum said to me:
"Never thought it would come to this but I have used my black Lumia 720 now for one week and am extremely impressed!
Owned 2 N9's (first one for almost 2 years now) before but find the simplicity of the Lumia awesome. The battery life easely doubles that of the N9 and that, together with the Gorilla glass 2 were the deciding factors.
I am writing this as a PM as I know the Maemo/MeeGo community keeps on ridiculing Nokia's move to Windows.
As I am not a gamer the so-called shortage of apps doesn't worry me as all the really useful ones are available.
Enough for now, I don't have to convince you right?"
"Never thought it would come to this but I have used my black Lumia 720 now for one week and am extremely impressed!
Owned 2 N9's (first one for almost 2 years now) before but find the simplicity of the Lumia awesome. The battery life easely doubles that of the N9 and that, together with the Gorilla glass 2 were the deciding factors.
I am writing this as a PM as I know the Maemo/MeeGo community keeps on ridiculing Nokia's move to Windows.
As I am not a gamer the so-called shortage of apps doesn't worry me as all the really useful ones are available.
Enough for now, I don't have to convince you right?"
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
I have no problem with that, it's just nice that people find the Lumia devices worthwhile. The main reason for snappines among some TMO users is that it replaced the one that we'd liked to see continue.
Here is what one of the people in this forum said to me:
"Never thought it would come to this but I have used my black Lumia 720 now for one week and am extremely impressed!
Owned 2 N9's (first one for almost 2 years now) before but find the simplicity of the Lumia awesome. The battery life easely doubles that of the N9 and that, together with the Gorilla glass 2 were the deciding factors.
I am writing this as a PM as I know the Maemo/MeeGo community keeps on ridiculing Nokia's move to Windows.
As I am not a gamer the so-called shortage of apps doesn't worry me as all the really useful ones are available.
Enough for now, I don't have to convince you right?"
As for myself, I agree to the statement above that lack of apps is not relevant. Apps are secondary, I only use about 10 applications together and that's fine.
Lumias are OK for people who just need a simple phone that works for them, but I have a bit different needs so I just would not find one useful
On the other hand, I just bought a 520 for my son, and he's quite happy with it even as he'd wanted to have an android device in the first place (and mostly because most of his schoolmates have android phones)
However he's also got a Nexus7 for gaming etc. so the Lumia suits his phone needs well.
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Faster processors run at higher voltages and the relationship between voltage and power consumption isn't linear it's squared, i.e. a 1GHz processor doesn't use twice as much energy as a 500MHz processor, it uses four times as much. You can mitigate this increased power consumption by going multicore, i.e if you have a 2 x 500MHz dual core processor you are only using twice the power not four times as much. Because multicore processors can do multiple things concurrently you get back to reduced power mode quicker too. This is why we are seeing more and more cores being used.
Here is what one of the people in this forum said to me:
"Never thought it would come to this but I have used my black Lumia 720 now for one week and am extremely impressed!
Owned 2 N9's (first one for almost 2 years now) before but find the simplicity of the Lumia awesome. The battery life easely doubles that of the N9 and that, together with the Gorilla glass 2 were the deciding factors."
The Lumia 720 had a 1GHz dual core processor whereas the N9 had a 1GHz single core processor. On top of that the N9 only had a 1450 mAh battery whereas the 720 had a 2000 mAh battery. It's really quite logical the battery life of the 720 was around twice that of the N9. It had nothing to do with the OS.
Therefore the mystery forum member's 'deciding factors' were entirely to do with NOKIA's hardware improvements between June 2011 and February 2013. Of course they could have made these improvements even sooner but they had to wait an eternity for WP to get multicore support. Do you remember that now, Lumiaman?
Do you remember the stupid things Elop used to say about multicore processors back in the days Windows Phone didn't support them? He's not saying it now is he?
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by Artyom
Seriously I suprised people still don't realise that Lumiaman actually is Stephen Elop. No one else believe WP is good choice this days.
I would really like to hear the basis of that statement.
Oh wait! There is no basis. Just another "claim" that you've said like 98698 times like a broken record.
So why feed Stephen Elop? Just ignore him. He is here only because he is pissed because his strategy has totally failed. Now he thinks he can convince people at TMO going WP, it is so pathetic....
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter
I am not sure what your point is. Mine is that Nokia has become more competitive. Not so pre-Elop. N8 and N9 were abominations as compared to competition at the time. The current Lumias are at level playing field now. But unfortunately competition is fierce.
Faster processors run at higher voltages and the relationship between voltage and power consumption isn't linear it's squared, i.e. a 1GHz processor doesn't use twice as much energy as a 500MHz processor, it uses four times as much. You can mitigate this increased power consumption by going multicore, i.e if you have a 2 x 500MHz dual core processor you are only using twice the power not four times as much. Because multicore processors can do multiple things concurrently you get back to reduced power mode quicker too. This is why we are seeing more and more cores being used.
The Lumia 720 had a 1GHz dual core processor whereas the N9 had a 1GHz single core processor. On top of that the N9 only had a 1450 mAh battery whereas the 720 had a 2000 mAh battery. It's really quite logical the battery life of the 720 was around twice that of the N9. It had nothing to do with the OS.
Therefore the mystery forum member's 'deciding factors' were entirely to do with NOKIA's hardware improvements between June 2011 and February 2013. Of course they could have made these improvements even sooner but they had to wait an eternity for WP to get multicore support. Do you remember that now, Lumiaman?
Do you remember the stupid things Elop used to say about multicore processors back in the days Windows Phone didn't support them? He's not saying it now is he?
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
is a dev kit version of lumia 920 appropriate?
Have you tried any of the new Lumias?
Originally Posted by Lumiaman
hmm, seems more like you...
Here is what one of the people in this forum said to me:
"Never thought it would come to this but I have used my black Lumia 720 now for one week and am extremely impressed!
Owned 2 N9's (first one for almost 2 years now) before but find the simplicity of the Lumia awesome. The battery life easely doubles that of the N9 and that, together with the Gorilla glass 2 were the deciding factors.
I am writing this as a PM as I know the Maemo/MeeGo community keeps on ridiculing Nokia's move to Windows.
As I am not a gamer the so-called shortage of apps doesn't worry me as all the really useful ones are available.
Enough for now, I don't have to convince you right?"
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
this will probably sound stupid but it's actually fun to troll a troll. also it's an "off topic" topic. why ignore the fun while you can have it?
Seriously I suprised people still don't realise that Lumiaman actually is Stephen Elop. No one else believe WP is good choice this days.
So why feed Stephen Elop? Just ignore him. He is here only because he is pissed because his strategy has totally failed. Now he thinks he can convince people at TMO going WP, it is so pathetic....
Originally Posted by Lumiaman
how is ~3% more competitive than ~30%?
I am not sure what your point is. Mine is that Nokia has become more competitive.
Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Not so pre-Elop. N8 and N9 were abominations as compared to competition at the time. The current Lumias are at level playing field now. But unfortunately competition is fierce.
nope they weren't. in fact they sold more than the lumai devices. and the symbian developer environment was growing day by day before the amazing speeches done by you mr. elop.
but you wouldn't know nothing about symbian operating system and the community since you've never used it.
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Gotta ask this, but which playing field? You can try to use analogies if you want, if you like try this... Nokia and the winphone are playing 5 a side soccer and is not really comparible to the international teams.
I am not sure what your point is. Mine is that Nokia has become more competitive. Not so pre-Elop. N8 and N9 were abominations as compared to competition at the time. The current Lumias are at level playing field now. But unfortunately competition is fierce.
Just look at the numbers, the competition is not fierce. They are leagues apart!
Here are my honest thoughts... I would have been ok if Nokia had released a winmo/phone. What really irks me and everyone else is the fact that Flop decided to throw ALL of nokias eggs into the winphone basket. He was not just being content with the position of CEO for the worlds largest mobile phone company where they could have kept the established operating systems in their places where they sold well (ageing or project) and continued to promote the winphone side by side even with the intent to phase one out. If you truely beleive that owning 3percent of the global market is a good thing then FFS give me some of what you are smoking please.
Heck, even the old win mobile handsets had a better market share than that long after they bought out winphone.
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2013-08-25
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Originally Posted by MINKIN2
Gotta ask this, but which playing field? You can try to use analogies if you want, if you like try this... Nokia and the winphone are playing 5 a side soccer and is not really comparible to the international teams.
Just look at the numbers, the competition is not fierce. They are leagues apart!
Here are my honest thoughts... I would have been ok if Nokia had released a winmo/phone. What really irks me and everyone else is the fact that Flop decided to throw ALL of nokias eggs into the winphone basket. He was not just being content with the position of CEO for the worlds largest mobile phone company where they could have kept the established operating systems in their places where they sold well (ageing or project) and continued to promote the winphone side by side even with the intent to phase one out. If you truely beleive that owning 3percent of the global market is a good thing then FFS give me some of what you are smoking please.
Heck, even the old win mobile handsets had a better market share than that long after they bought out winphone.
Yes, it would have been nice to have several baskets, but they were diluting themselves already with too may Symbian variants, than Maemo than Meego....and the last three were going nowhere. There were only two choices, WP or Android. They went WP for many reasons discussed here. Remember: only TWO choices. Symbian in N8 was a disaster and N9 was a nightmare. He rightly chose not to pursue dead OSs
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