is life easy of hard benny.

Just to get back to a previous point, the applications that are available are orders of magnitude more important than the hardware. Google spent the money to develop Google Pinyin, Nokia didn't spend the money to develop anything similar that I have heard about. Therefore the Nexus will have an advantage in China that Nokia could have easily prevented if they had spent more money on N900 and Maemo. The same can be said for every function that Nokia didn't bother to develop.

When Nokia just had to worry about fart apps on the iPhone, they could afford to take this approach. But unless Nokia starts taking Android seriously and starts committing more resources to the N900/Maemo effort, they will be left behind.

I wouldn't count Android out for lower markets. But that does present a problem for their app store.

"When Nokia just had to worry about fart apps on the iPhone, they could afford to take this approach. But unless Nokia starts taking Android seriously and starts committing more resources to the N900/Maemo effort, they will be left behind."


not sure if that makes sense

nokia has taken ipnone seriously , they will be the first to tell you, the n900 has copied the front of the iphone completly, nokia reps are all making cklaims that its not about apps when you have a full browser that has flash- the internet can do the apps without paying and installing.(this was there marketing stance), what ever anyone says about them saying its not a phone isnt the case at all.

and secondly iphone has the seductive draw and that is going no where- as some as the new iphone comes out- i will have it, and so will many. its iconic- i understand there is alot of bias on these boards against iphone, but you have to sometimes look at the truths.

the proof behind why nokia has taken apple seriously is in your hands (the n900)- if it wasnt for apple it probally wouldnt have been a phone and maemo 5 would have been as user friendly.

android is covering the middle end and trying to breach into the high end- that was palm/iphone/winmo etc.

nokia still has the bottom end and the market share of the middle.

they are going for the top end with this n900(its a protype in reality just like the iphone- i had every other ipod- but could never buy a iphone without 3g- so kept on to my n95)- offcourse as soon as it did come out with 3g i bought it- this time i just took the plunge with the n900 even tho it has flaws like the orioginal iphone- but that is mainly because i really didnt want the 3gs- its amazing to think that i had a phone for 2 years and at the end to get a better one it would be the 3gs- wich in reality is hardly any different from the 3g. this proves how advanced apple are- the android isnt there yet either

Or how sad Apple is that they couldn't come up with any other way to update or upgrade the iPhone 3G in 2 years.

Seriously.. people love the iPhone.. but there *have* been complaints about the iPhone that apple doesn't seem to want or care to implement. Every device has it's flaws... you would think in 2 years and a new device - apple would have come up with something better than the 3GS.

It's not good enough to be top dawg now.. and then reinvent the same wheel over and over again 4 different times. If apple wants to maintain being the top dawg - they actually need to come up with something *new*.

Sorry.. just a small side-rant there. I hate the iPhone anyway so don't particularly care.. back to your regularly scheduled topic...

"you would think in 2 years and a new device - apple would have come up with something better than the 3GS."

i agree but the rest havent done any better either, i think the world is assumeing that this 3gs is just a quick fix and nothing more ready for the next device.

As android you are member of the borg. There's no offline existence for a borg member at all.

Yeah.. one of the most annoying things ever.

"Thanks for buying your new G1.. here's your spiffy new phone. It can take up to 24 hours to port your old number and get you on the cellular networks."

"Awesome! Thanks!"

*power on device*

"Please login to Google."

"Hrmm.. well, lets put my info in here..."

"I'm sorry.. we can't contact our servers... please try again later."

Yay... a 24 hour paper-weight!

As I understand it, yes. I'm a Windows guru, I know almost nothing about Unix and even less about mobile Unix. But the basic principle is the same, and, as the kernel is open, any software can be hooked, spied, clean-room engineered and whatnot. After all, the hardware has specs, it's a TI SOC, not a Nokia custom board.

The real issues here are if (a) it's legal to do so, since it is, after all, a proprietary device and (b) is it easy enough to do so that several people can help.

To have results, you need developers and I only do Delphi at the required level. One dude, alone in the dark is not going to be able to develop a new phone suite. Some things can only be done by a coordinated team. There's simply too much code.

It's possible, even likely, something will be put together. But from something together to nicer-than-Nokia or beats-iphone-and-HTC is a looooong way.

I don't feel like answering calls from the terminal. Heh.

But really, the contact-phone-mms-video stuff is less than simple and if the repositories are any indication these people are ALL about function over form.

One might ask if I don't (value function over form) what the Devil am I doing on Linux. Well, I believe there is such a thing as both.

But like I said, I know little about Unix-like systems. For example, I still don't understands why people running out of space on rootfs can't simply junction a folder on another partition. What's the word I'm looking for, hardlink? On my home Windows, my temp folder isn't really there on the SSDs, but it's a mounted HDD (since idiots hardcode their temporary folders).

But I ramble. Short version is, yes, I believe the community can provide replacements of all Nokia-provided apps, but my bet is it'll be even uglier ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more function over form.

Here is a good side by side:

http://translate.google.fr/translate...2F&sl=fr&tl=en

Looks like our N900 only wins on physical keyboard...