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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
/me wonders idly why they weren't represented at the web coordination meeting.
Who even who they are beyond Imad and Valtteri.
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Originally Posted by lma View Post
Playing devil's advocate for a moment, it's not like maemo.org has always been a trouble-free experience either.
...which is the reason we started the SSO project in the first place. The problem with maemo.org is that the whole system grew organically instead of being designed. And that is what I'm trying to avoid with MeeGo here.

Originally Posted by lma View Post
To an outsider it looks like a lot of NIH from both camps. I don't know if the right solution is Drupal, Midgard or (most likely) something completely different but I do wish you'd get together in IRC or somewhere and talk it out. Arguing about it here doesn't accomplish anything.
Agreed, which is why I wrote a pretty long post about different SSO approaches to meego-community. But now the lists server is down so I guess it will take a while to get delivered.

While I know that Midgard would run meego.com better than Drupal that is not the discussion I'm trying to get into here. The point is having a properly designed SSO and user identity system that isn't tied to the community running on a particular CMS, whether Drupal, Midgard or Sharepoint

Originally Posted by lma View Post
(Still in D-A mode) The fact that those results are several months old and we still haven't got working SSO (I'm not even sure about the current status, is http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on/Status up to date?) may indicate that they are unworkable or overly complex to setup and maintain.
The reason is simply that SSO has been waiting for the maemo.org server migration to be completed before deployment. And when that was finally done we got this new thing called MeeGo to consider.
 

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#183
Bergie's right. Let's avoid going into crazy loops and realize the chicken has to come before the egg here. There's also high value in agnostic, interoperable technologies at the base of MeeGo.com not just from an administrative standpoint but from a sociopolitical standpoint. As MeeGo grows to fulfill the needs of various manufacturers we need to stay as technologically agnostic and flexible as possible throughout the solution delivery chain.

As for Drupal... I can see some arguments for keeping it but to me the strongest argument against, and for Midgard, is Bergie's tireless engagement on behalf of this community. Do we have any Drupal developers so embedded yet?
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Originally Posted by bergie View Post
Agreed, which is why I wrote a pretty long post about different SSO approaches to meego-community. But now the lists server is down so I guess it will take a while to get delivered.
Ah, that explains it... Thanks, and looking forward to reading it when the mailman deities deliver it :-)
 
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Originally Posted by lma View Post
Ah, that explains it... Thanks, and looking forward to reading it when the mailman deities deliver it :-)
Here we go: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...ry/000102.html
 

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#186
What about the name and URL for the forums? For example:
  1. talk.meego.com
  2. forum.meego.com
  3. forums.meego.com
  4. meego.com/talk
  5. meego.com/forum
  6. meego.com/forums
talk.meego.com would have the obvious symmetry with talk.maemo.org, but some users think of an IRC-style chatroom when they see the word "Talk". "Forum" and "Forums" are probably more widely recognised terms.

The singular versus plural thing depends on whether you think that General, Community and Development are individual forums, or whether there is just one forum with different folders within it. Different sites use different terminology. Which do we prefer?

Trivial, maybe, compared to solving an SSO problem, but site names and URLs are still important, I think.
 
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#187
Please make your MeeGo related proposals at meego.com.
 
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I created a test site and installed the latest version of Drupal (v6.15). I'm currently testing a Drupal add-on called Drupal vB which automatically replicates Drupal accounts to vB during sign-up. It does SSO nicely as well. It looks promising.

I might need help from some of you soon to help test/break it.

Thanks.
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Reggie, thanks!

Sorry for insisting: please ask for meego.com testers at meego.com. It's all good if you want to copy here as well but the main place to try/test MeeGo services is Meego. Otherwise it feels weird for the people without a maemo background there (actually many already). Thanks!

http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-community
 

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Originally Posted by pelago View Post
What about the name and URL for the forums? For example:
  1. talk.meego.com
  2. forum.meego.com
  3. forums.meego.com
  4. meego.com/talk
  5. meego.com/forum
  6. meego.com/forums
talk.meego.com would have the obvious symmetry with talk.maemo.org, but some users think of an IRC-style chatroom when they see the word "Talk". "Forum" and "Forums" are probably more widely recognised terms.

The singular versus plural thing depends on whether you think that General, Community and Development are individual forums, or whether there is just one forum with different folders within it. Different sites use different terminology. Which do we prefer?

Trivial, maybe, compared to solving an SSO problem, but site names and URLs are still important, I think.
I've posted a variant on this to the MeeGo-community mailing list, see http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...ry/000134.html
 

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