Originally Posted by wmarone

I don't believe that's up for argument. The problem arises when their model is seen by competitors (Microsoft, Samsung) as The Way To Do It Right leaving us with Windows Phone 7 not allowing any side-loads, and charging $20 to post free applications. It's about pushing back against a business model that is very much anti-freedom and seems to be spreading.

Non-sequitor, Apple doesn't restrict you to music from iTunes.

Well, no. Crippling capability of the fear that someone might share music *gasp* proves that you're firmly in the pockets of the media industry, instead of delivering functionality to your customers.

Stop arguing folks alright it is kinda stupid. I find it funny how how people are trying to defend Apple's device when this is a NOKIA FORUM

Originally Posted by garyc2010

"I shouldn't have to hack a device to get full functionality. A person shouldn't have to hack a device to be able to what they want with a device they payed for enough said"

Totally agree, Nokia promised me activesync with my N900, they lied, and no amount of hacking on this forum has gotten it to work, apple on the other hand promised me activesync, and guess what they delivered.

THE PROBLEM IS Nokia delivered a HALF BAKED OS, and people are having to hack things to get BASIC features to work, im sure most dont mind hacks to gain extra functionality, but having to drop to terminal to FIX problems in the n900 is out of order, hell the fking alarm clock doesnt even work properly, they released a phone without MMS !!!! so how does joe blog "hack" that ???

so Yes I concur when you say "A person shouldn't have to hack a device to be able to what they want with a device they payed for enough said"

Originally Posted by nosa101

Blame the competitors for following like sheep

That's the way business works.

Originally Posted by wmarone

Sure, but that won't help me in the long run. Apple's business model is entirely worth criticizing, vocally, and just because I don't use their device doesn't devalue my criticisms of it.


It does but it's wrong, wholly deserving of criticism and opposition. Nothing good awaits us in simply letting it be.

Originally Posted by garyc2010

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Its apps that sell phones, something that people on here dont seem to realize.

Originally Posted by garyc2010

"Tthe iPhone sucks and in my opinion everything is better than the iPhone these days when you get down to it."

Do you own an iPhone or have ever used one ????, that is a very broad and well, dumb statement.

You see this is really the crux of the matter, next year App Download Revenues are expected to exceed $15Bn

Nokia will get damn all of this revenue pissing about with the n900, so thats why it has been dropped like a stone, and it is now dumping its stock in India etc, and thats why it will ultimately switch to android (after messing about with meego for a while that is)

Its apps that sell phones, something that people on here dont seem to realize. The Iphone has long reached critical mass, android is almost there, the n900 well just look at the sorry state of the apps and it is self evident.

N900.....as useful as a chocolate fire-guard

Originally Posted by nosa101

False. I pretty sure I can flood the Ovi store with a gazillion trillion rss type apps and the n97 will still suck. Blackberry doesn't have the largest app store but it is the most used device in N.America.

Functionality sells phones

Originally Posted by garyc2010

Blackberrys are business phones that offer something the n900 can only dream of, syncing, hell if i remember rightly they are giving a cut down version of the BES away free.

Android has 30,000 apps, Iphone gawd knows 150,000 ????, N900 has 6, yes thats right 6 apps, but because it has functionality it will rape the iphone right ??? hold on wtf am i saying ??? the n900 has no functionality, only crippling bugs, and that is why Apple sell more phones in a week than nokia has sold to date.

Its all about the apps my boy, after all maemo is only an OS, a platform, it is the apps that run on this layer that provide functionality, and thus lead to sales, comprendo amigo ???