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2011-05-27
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Ok Carsten thanyou for giving us this information which i think now finally proves on this very thread that Nokia have indeed got no intentions whatsoever of doing anything with Maemo.
abill_uk,
To state this very very clearly:
* Nokia is actively funding a team working on DE consisting of Nokia employees and subcontractors. I am one such subcontractor. These people can work on the closed source parts due to the contractual relationships.
* Our goal is to provide a solid foundation for you and everyone to help build a phone OS on top of with base use cases already working (hw adaptation, calls, sms, browser, camera). If you believe in community's power to create brilliance you should love this.
* We take hardware support things such as BME, make them work under MeeGo and publish as binaries under redistributable licenses. We also if possible, open source some things. This is not always possible due to third party IPR, patents or whatever, but we do our best.
* Anything non-hardware specific contributed is usable on all other MeeGo devices.
* No, we're not going to touch the Maemo5 UI code. It is a dead end. We do Qt, Qt Quick, not dead end GTK+ mixed with Hildon.
* As a final side note, you keep saying MeeGo isn't being built for N900. It is. Having lower end hardware working fine makes a lot of sense as value.
I have to give you my homest opinion of the work on MeeGo and it is also the same as other peoples posts on here in that it is very slow and nowhere near ready yet for the N900.
Now we have a greater debate about the source code for the Maemo OS of the N900 as you have confirmed Nokia have released to you as a sub-contractor the code we are all trying to get out of Nokia.
This Poll has brought out some very interesting information and if you look at the voting it now stands at 411 for and 15 against, i consider that to be overwhelming odds for Nokia to release the code to the CSSU.
Now we have another debate to chew and that is why MeeGo development and the Maemo CSSU teams are not working together?.
The members of this Community now need to digest what you have said and give comments accordingly.
Last edited by abill_uk; 2011-05-27 at 05:34.
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2011-05-27
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#183
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My own opinions also need to be vented here and i will do so now.
I do not consider MeeGo to be viable for the N900 because already the hardware criteria spec for MeeGo is higher than the N900 has to offer.
Bearing that in mind i just can not see MeeGo getting even close to the current operating system of Maemo because after all this time if MeeGo can not be anything else other than a very basic UI then as i said before either get more work going and fast or give up and go home on the MeeGo/N900 front.
The Maemo OS is far more than a basic UI and i consider it very worthy indeed of further development mainly because of lack of any other OS such as MeeGo.
For any real progress we do need the OS to be released fully to the team working on it.
These are a few of my opinions that i wanted to share.
I do not consider MeeGo to be viable for the N900 because already the hardware criteria spec for MeeGo is higher than the N900 has to offer.
Bearing that in mind i just can not see MeeGo getting even close to the current operating system of Maemo because after all this time if MeeGo can not be anything else other than a very basic UI then as i said before either get more work going and fast or give up and go home on the MeeGo/N900 front.
The Maemo OS is far more than a basic UI and i consider it very worthy indeed of further development mainly because of lack of any other OS such as MeeGo.
For any real progress we do need the OS to be released fully to the team working on it.
These are a few of my opinions that i wanted to share.
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2011-05-27
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#184
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Don't assume you speak for the community, because you don't. I know meego is not ready right now, but i sincerely believe and hope it will.
I have to give you my homest opinion of the work on MeeGo and it is also the same as other peoples posts on here in that it is very slow and nowhere near ready yet for the N900.
I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done.
The base is there, with a few more touches it will be ready for daily use by most TMO users and the community will build on that.
This Poll has brought out some very interesting information and if you look at the voting it now stands at 415 for and 15 against, i consider that to be overwhelming odds for Nokia to release the code to the CSSU.
Nokia is a company guided by profit.
What do you think? How much of that profit comes from the 50000 users of this community and how much of that profit comes from less then 1% of the members in this community?
Last edited by Daneel; 2011-05-27 at 05:52.
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2011-05-27
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[QUOTE=Daneel;1016484]Don't assume you speak for the community, because you don't. I know meego is not ready right now, but i sincerely believe and hope it will.
I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done.
The base is there, with a few more touches it will be ready for daily use buy most TMO users and the community will build on that.
414 people /= overwhelming.[/QUOTE
Read my post carefully !.
My opinion is MY opinion and nothing to do with anyone elses ok.
Let the Community speak for themselves, i do not speak for them.
You are now speaking for me huh, you just said "I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done"
Is that right now, you know everything i have done do you?.
Last edited by abill_uk; 2011-05-27 at 05:45.
I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done.
The base is there, with a few more touches it will be ready for daily use buy most TMO users and the community will build on that.
414 people /= overwhelming.[/QUOTE
Read my post carefully !.
My opinion is MY opinion and nothing to do with anyone elses ok.
Let the Community speak for themselves, i do not speak for them.
You are now speaking for me huh, you just said "I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done"
Is that right now, you know everything i have done do you?.
Last edited by abill_uk; 2011-05-27 at 05:45.
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2011-05-27
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Too bad i already quoted your original post eh? You are acting like 5 year old boy caught peeing in his pants by his parents.
Originally Posted by abill_uk
I have to give you my homest opinion of the work on MeeGo and it is also the same as other peoples posts on here in that it is very slow and nowhere near ready yet for the N900.
Originally Posted by abill_uk
Originally Posted by DaneelRead my post carefully !.Don't assume you speak for the community, because you don't. I know meego is not ready right now, but i sincerely believe and hope it will.
I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done.
The base is there, with a few more touches it will be ready for daily use buy most TMO users and the community will build on that.
414 people /= overwhelming.
My opinion is MY opinion and nothing to do with anyone elses ok.
Let the Community speak for themselves, i do not speak for them.
You are now speaking for me huh, you just said "I have tried it on my N900 and i have judged it for myself, something you haven't done"
Is that right now, you know everything i have done do you?.
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2011-05-27
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#187
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Originally Posted by Daneel
why do you even bother - just add him to ignore list
Too bad i already quoted your original post eh? You are acting like 5 year old boy caught peeing in his pants by his parents.
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2011-05-27
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There is actually a thread devoted to the subject of MeeGo not making it, take a look ok.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ighlight=meego
Read through it and also it is said in many places on this forum if you take the time to look.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ighlight=meego
Read through it and also it is said in many places on this forum if you take the time to look.
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2011-05-27
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i voted yes..because,as all of you told before,nokia has dropped maemo..all devls are from the community. the developments do have a lot of bugs which has to be worked on and on..and leading to reflashing. if opening the source code can help this am in.really really in..
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2011-05-27
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Originally Posted by thashku
That pretty well sums it all up and the reason for the Poll.
i voted yes..because,as all of you told before,nokia has dropped maemo..all devls are from the community. the developments do have a lot of bugs which has to be worked on and on..and leading to reflashing. if opening the source code can help this am in.really really in..
Many thanks for those simple words that make it clear.
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