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2019-08-26
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I feel sad about people over here are really stuck to their N900's OS without looking and seeing what is happening around them. A LOT of things has been changed in the past 10 (!) years.
Maybe you guys should actually try or at least gather some recent information about nowadays other OS's instead of blindly shouting stuff about things from 10 years ago.
You would see that the N900 is literally missing out almost everything in 2019...
It's already time to let the N900 retire and look forward to something else, to something that the N900 was doing, but in a better way.
Pro 1 is the most closest device that you can get to achieve this.
Last edited by HtheB; 2019-08-26 at 16:00.
Maybe you guys should actually try or at least gather some recent information about nowadays other OS's instead of blindly shouting stuff about things from 10 years ago.
You would see that the N900 is literally missing out almost everything in 2019...
It's already time to let the N900 retire and look forward to something else, to something that the N900 was doing, but in a better way.
Pro 1 is the most closest device that you can get to achieve this.
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2019-08-26
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Looking forward to hearing about folk's experiences with this phone. I had signed up but wimped out cause I had already committed to Purism. And second, I just didn't want another phone that was android. Especially as the specs are not as good as my current one although I will miss the HWKB.
Not so much interested in Jolla anymore. I don't think I'm even that interested in Purism right now cause it will not be that fully developed software wise and hardware is likely subpar but I do like the novelty of it, its linux base and what it brings. I think if I got another android phone it would be because of outstanding specs/camera maybe folding screen if that worked well. HWKB in itself is not enough. Anyways, good luck and I applaud Chen's efforts. A true hero for carrying out this project.
Not so much interested in Jolla anymore. I don't think I'm even that interested in Purism right now cause it will not be that fully developed software wise and hardware is likely subpar but I do like the novelty of it, its linux base and what it brings. I think if I got another android phone it would be because of outstanding specs/camera maybe folding screen if that worked well. HWKB in itself is not enough. Anyways, good luck and I applaud Chen's efforts. A true hero for carrying out this project.
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2019-08-26
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Originally Posted by HtheB
I am not really want to tamper Android system files but would like to have access to hardware and even running some Linux environment on the phone (that is why N900 was really good for me).
You were talking about copying your photos, not system files.
Why would you want to tamper with system files anyway?
Basically, I am using Linux as desktop and want to have similar features like if I was using my notebook but on my phone.
I am also thinking the use of f2fs on my MicroSD card to extend its life, etc.
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2019-08-26
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Originally Posted by HtheB
To be honest, even 6-7 years ago n900 felt so outdated. Same story for my beloved n9 ofcourse.
I feel sad about people over here are really stuck to their N900's OS without looking and seeing what is happening around them. A LOT of things has been changed in the past 10 (!) years.
Maybe you guys should actually try or at least gather some recent information about nowadays other OS's instead of blindly shouting stuff about things from 10 years ago.
You would see that the N900 is literally missing out almost everything in 2019...
It's already time to let the N900 retire and look forward to something else, to something that the N900 was doing, but in a better way.
Pro 1 is the most closest device that you can get to achieve this.
Nevertheless, it's fun to take those devices out of the drawer every now and then to remember good ol' times.
But using them today as a primary smartphone by choice? Like, willingly? You have to really hate yourself or something.
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2019-08-26
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Originally Posted by HtheB
I feel sad about people over here are really stuck to their N900's OS without looking and seeing what is happening around them. A LOT of things has been changed in the past 10 (!) years.
Maybe you guys should actually try or at least gather some recent information about nowadays other OS's instead of blindly shouting stuff about things from 10 years ago.
You would see that the N900 is literally missing out almost everything in 2019...
It's already time to let the N900 retire and look forward to something else, to something that the N900 was doing, but in a better way.
Pro 1 is the most closest device that you can get to achieve this.
I think it's hard to generalize "people" into one category. For example
1. Some just want what they are used to (probably who you referring to)
2. Some want something that work as close to a Debian phone as possible. Right now this is still Maemo & I guess ubports.
3. Some people want a computer that is also a phone in there pocket. Not a phone that does some computer like stuff.
4. Some people want a functioning keyboard phone. Very few outside of Japan and blackberry .. maybe a few rando android phones.
5. Many just really don't want anything to do with android.
6. Many don't need banking apps, uber, WhatsApp, facebook, instagram, etc apps. They just need the basics to work very well.
7. Many people searching and hoping for a modern OS to use. but instead only have open and semi open OS that have too many short comings that really are just different kinds of probably vs maemo.
I really hope this changes over the next few years. But I'm kind a blend of 7, 6, 5, 4 and a little bit of 3.
I've been watch sailfish and ubports for years. And have yet to see a completing reason to change. For all I gain I loss a lot of tiny things. Like death by a thousand cuts
.Maemo-leste is making the OS no longer 10 yrs old. No I will be the first to say there are tons of issue I hope can be address once m-Leste become stable. But this is a big maybe.
So for right now chance are I will run sailfish, ubports ... unless something else comes out.
I really appreciate your enthusiasm, but I think for how blind your painting some folks ... you may have some blinder spots as well.
There IS no right answer in the open source communities love it or hate it
I would happily give up on maemo/n900 once some comes alone that fit my needs and doesn't remove too much of what I like about how I use my phone now.
Also soon we will start reading and seeing the pro1 in the wild good and bad. I wish chen would get a phone over to the maemo-leste folks ... more chose = better life
cheers
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2019-08-26
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Originally Posted by nikos523
To be honest, even 6-7 years ago n900 felt so outdated. Same story for my beloved n9 ofcourse.
Nevertheless, it's fun to take those devices out of the drawer every now and then to remember good ol' times.
But using them today as a primary smartphone by choice? Like, willingly? You have to really hate yourself or something.
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I'm a every day user.
Really the only thing I would say I hate is the cpu and emmc speed. This makes the phone feel very slow sometimes.
Because I've never adopted the apps life, my need are very flexible at the moment. So with terminal I can sync, linkup to a pebble, rsync backups etc.
I'm for sure not normal ...haha. But it's in some ways a freer life style, not waiting for company A to support my phone.
It will most likely be the same for a Librem OS, sailfish or any other OS I try.
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2019-08-26
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Originally Posted by xman
As long as your setup works for you, no one can argue.
I'm a every day user.
Really the only thing I would say I hate is the cpu and emmc speed. This makes the phone feel very slow sometimes.
Because I've never adopted the apps life, my need are very flexible at the moment. So with terminal I can sync, linkup to a pebble, rsync backups etc.
I'm for sure not normal ...haha. But it's in some ways a freer life style, not waiting for company A to support my phone.
It will most likely be the same for a Librem OS, sailfish or any other OS I try.
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I use way too much stuff from my phone and tablet. For the office, for my home, for my own business etc.
Anyway, that's irrelevant. I wrote my opinion based on my personal use and that's it.
But other than that, focusing on the support part, it's not a problem anymore.
You basically have about 4 years of support with pixel/galaxy phones and you can always flash it yourself if you want.
For example my Galaxy S from 2010 runs Android 7.1. That's extra 5 years on top of the first 2 years with official updates!
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2019-08-26
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Originally Posted by nikos523
I have replaced my N900 exactly a year ago since its eMMC stopped working. This was my second N900 with the same problem, the first one still works using MicroSD as part of the system (the phone also has a 256 MB primary storage which still works).
To be honest, even 6-7 years ago n900 felt so outdated. Same story for my beloved n9 ofcourse.
Nevertheless, it's fun to take those devices out of the drawer every now and then to remember good ol' times.
But using them today as a primary smartphone by choice? Like, willingly? You have to really hate yourself or something.
The second one still could be waken up the same way, however, it also had other problems like loosing SIM connection sometimes.
I had two main problems at last - slow CPU and few RAM, the latter is only 256MB altogether.
It was not really able to cope with modern web pages.
However, I remember a few years ago we were presenting a new system which were still under development running at a private computer somewhere else. The computer was connected to a UPS, but it did not work and a power outage restarted the whole system two times during the presentation. Fortunately, I could use my N900 to get everything to work again not leaving us in trouble. Today's phones without a landscape querty keyboard are completely unusable in such situations.
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2019-08-26
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I seem to remember reading from Chenliangchen that the Pro1 has USB OTG, but I can't find the confirmation in the specifications on the official website. Can anyone confirm? I'm about to buy a USB-USB-C small adapter while I order something else, I would like to know before I confirm my order.
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