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Muzimak |
2012-07-30
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#1971
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I really don't understand Whatsapp Inc people, why waste time trying to come up with ways to Block us instead of just giving us the App so they don't have to deal with us hacking into their system again? Cuz now llike it or not they gonna have to play a Catch up game, which indirectly mean they working for us! If they hate us this much not to wanna give it for free, why not just sell it to us straight up? I'm so happy mine still works, I'll use it the last droplet before they stop me.
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2012-07-30
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#1972
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This is really annoying, maybe there's a bigger picture I don't see here, this is not only going for Whatsapp Inc, but guys like Viber, Skype, Tapatalk etc, what's the Logic behind them not producing specifically for us? What do they got to lose if they could even sell these Apps if required, or they simply just don't understand developing for our Platform? What's the problem here, I think if I were a Multi-Plat Developer I'd want my App to reach as many as possible unless the device is technically poor to run the App, in our case that's not the reason!
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2012-07-30
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#1973
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Well, for them to develop for us its not only simply porting over their app to our platform but also providing us with end-user support...if you go through this thread, you can see how important end-user support is especially for such apps with bring about it various types of users...
Opera is a known supporter for open source platforms and yet they have only 2 devs who develop it for us in their free time as an experiment if you read thier disclaimers... So what hope do we have from Viber, Whatsapp or Skype supporting us further? After all Skype is integrated into our system and is now a component of M$ which has never supported F/OSS...
Take for example a famous iOS game called Temple Run, its being selling like crazy but recently they ported it over to Android and hired 2devs to do just this specifically but still faced many issues leading to various updates that have led some newer models (Galaxy Nexus with JB) not able to run it while some older ones (SGS) running it...
Development is not a simple task so if you are not going to get volume why bother in the first place?
Yes, I agree they could do more but if you are in their shoes and you can earn by improving the dev teams of the existing platforms or risk by hiring new devs for a supposedly "dead" platform what would you do?
Opera is a known supporter for open source platforms and yet they have only 2 devs who develop it for us in their free time as an experiment if you read thier disclaimers... So what hope do we have from Viber, Whatsapp or Skype supporting us further? After all Skype is integrated into our system and is now a component of M$ which has never supported F/OSS...
Take for example a famous iOS game called Temple Run, its being selling like crazy but recently they ported it over to Android and hired 2devs to do just this specifically but still faced many issues leading to various updates that have led some newer models (Galaxy Nexus with JB) not able to run it while some older ones (SGS) running it...
Development is not a simple task so if you are not going to get volume why bother in the first place?
Yes, I agree they could do more but if you are in their shoes and you can earn by improving the dev teams of the existing platforms or risk by hiring new devs for a supposedly "dead" platform what would you do?
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2012-07-30
, 16:45
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Joined on Jan 2010
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#1974
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Originally Posted by thedead1440
Symbian has whatsapp. They could just develop it in Qt and port it over. Simple. But they want to earn money, lots of money by being lazy. I make a tiny update, sell 1 million apps and that's it.
Well, for them to develop for us its not only simply porting over their app to our platform but also providing us with end-user support...if you go through this thread, you can see how important end-user support is especially for such apps with bring about it various types of users...
Opera is a known supporter for open source platforms and yet they have only 2 devs who develop it for us in their free time as an experiment if you read thier disclaimers... So what hope do we have from Viber, Whatsapp or Skype supporting us further? After all Skype is integrated into our system and is now a component of M$ which has never supported F/OSS...
Take for example a famous iOS game called Temple Run, its being selling like crazy but recently they ported it over to Android and hired 2devs to do just this specifically but still faced many issues leading to various updates that have led some newer models (Galaxy Nexus with JB) not able to run it while some older ones (SGS) running it...
Development is not a simple task so if you are not going to get volume why bother in the first place?
Yes, I agree they could do more but if you are in their shoes and you can earn by improving the dev teams of the existing platforms or risk by hiring new devs for a supposedly "dead" platform what would you do?
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2012-07-30
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Joined on Jan 2010
@ MA
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#1975
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Originally Posted by Muzimak
I think they blocked b/c too many here were contacting them to unlock their accounts after they kept switching sim cards to different phones. Probably pissed off support, and since N9 is unsupported, they decided to block it. If people had kept Whatsapp to their N9 only, this probably would not have happened.
I really don't understand Whatsapp Inc people, why waste time trying to come up with ways to Block us instead of just giving us the App so they don't have to deal with us hacking into their system again? Cuz now llike it or not they gonna have to play a Catch up game, which indirectly mean they working for us! If they hate us this much not to wanna give it for free, why not just sell it to us straight up? I'm so happy mine still works, I'll use it the last droplet before they stop me.
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2012-07-30
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@ Johannesburg - South Africa
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#1976
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Originally Posted by thedead1440
Well thanx U made sense, I still think it's not a reason though, they've been doing it for Symbian before, suddenly they stopped, did they ask Nokia Management "How many N9s you guys Manufacturing?", Nokia says 500 000 units, "no, 500K is not enough" but at the same time they doing for other Platforms for free, well at least for a year. I think they being selfish!
Well, for them to develop for us its not only simply porting over their app to our platform but also providing us with end-user support...if you go through this thread, you can see how important end-user support is especially for such apps with bring about it various types of users...
Opera is a known supporter for open source platforms and yet they have only 2 devs who develop it for us in their free time as an experiment if you read thier disclaimers... So what hope do we have from Viber, Whatsapp or Skype supporting us further? After all Skype is integrated into our system and is now a component of M$ which has never supported F/OSS...
Take for example a famous iOS game called Temple Run, its being selling like crazy but recently they ported it over to Android and hired 2devs to do just this specifically but still faced many issues leading to various updates that have led some newer models (Galaxy Nexus with JB) not able to run it while some older ones (SGS) running it...
Development is not a simple task so if you are not going to get volume why bother in the first place?
Yes, I agree they could do more but if you are in their shoes and you can earn by improving the dev teams of the existing platforms or risk by hiring new devs for a supposedly "dead" platform what would you do?
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2012-07-30
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@ Argentina
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#1977
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It's impossible that whatsapp blocked wazapp for registration
How do you guys think they can do this?
Blocking IMEI? Then why it works in NITDroid?
Wazapp uses symbian agent for registration.
I've updated it in my source.
tgalal seems to be on vacations or something, cause I can't commit to his repo anymore and I can't contact him.
But you can try downloading and compiling it from here:
https://github.com/CepiPerez/wazapp
I've fixed some issues, you can compile wazapp using qtcreator now
How do you guys think they can do this?
Blocking IMEI? Then why it works in NITDroid?
Wazapp uses symbian agent for registration.
I've updated it in my source.
tgalal seems to be on vacations or something, cause I can't commit to his repo anymore and I can't contact him.
But you can try downloading and compiling it from here:
https://github.com/CepiPerez/wazapp
I've fixed some issues, you can compile wazapp using qtcreator now
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2012-07-30
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Joined on Mar 2012
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#1978
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Originally Posted by CepiPerez
According to Scorpius:
It's impossible that whatsapp blocked wazapp for registration
How do you guys think they can do this?
Originally Posted by Scorpius
That string is not used in the registration process but in the login. Now Whatsapp is verifying the token, which was totally ignored before. We'd need to hack how the token is built, since it derives from the phone number and other data... and that's not easy.
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2012-07-30
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Joined on Dec 2011
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#1979
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@cepi: you changelog suggests that group chat somewhat works in your branch. I want to try it , and I have qtcreator setup on my linux laptop.
Only question I had is, I am a little scared of losing the login credentials as from my phone. Is there a way to make sure I preserve my current login credentials so that I do not face the issue with fail-too-many !
Thanks for your wonderful contributions to wazapp.
Only question I had is, I am a little scared of losing the login credentials as from my phone. Is there a way to make sure I preserve my current login credentials so that I do not face the issue with fail-too-many !
Thanks for your wonderful contributions to wazapp.
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2012-07-30
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Joined on Jul 2012
@ Finland
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