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MisterMaster is offline MisterMaster
2015-11-20 , 19:18
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#1981
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
They may not have known the details but believe me, they have known that they were in dire straights for a long time. Definitely at least 6 months. That explains all the delays: the tablet, all the support issues, the disappearence of official Jolla answers on TJC... The signs have been there in clear view for a long time.

Some of us saw it coming for almost a year. Not everyone wanted to hear.
I think it is no surprise that Jolla needs money from investors to survive.

So you saw year ago that Jolla's third financing round this year would not go as planned?

And if the situation was year ago so bad it is a miracle that Jolla has been able to survive this past year. Well they have said that they have had close calls in financing many times but they have managed to survive.
 
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2015-11-20 , 19:21
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Originally Posted by billranton View Post
More rubbish. You're assuming they've known that this financing round would be delayed since before the summer. Based on the tablet delay pattern, I think the best guess would be that this started after the first round were invited to pay their taxes, before the second batch got delayed. For all you know it's still coming, waiting for the right deal.
They opened another tranche of pre-orders towards the end of the summer, not before. Also, of course they knew. The whole point of the separation of the company into two businesses, as I said at the time, was to deal with debt and losses incurred on various deals and the disastrously still extant inventory of Jolla Phones.

P.S. Per my other prediction, if they are to come out of this (even temporarily), I still think they have to wind up the hardware division completely.
 
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2015-11-20 , 19:26
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#1983
This comes to mind
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2015-11-20 , 19:27
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Originally Posted by nieldk View Post
This comes to mind
Tell that to their investors ..
 
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2015-11-20 , 19:27
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Originally Posted by MisterMaster View Post
So you saw year ago that Jolla's third financing round this year would not go as planned?
Of course not, don't be obtuse. I interpretted the signs at the time and I was watching them ever since. The signs never disappeared. Of course I did not know the exact date when the straw would finally snap but as you say...

And if the situation was year ago so bad it is a miracle that Jolla has been able to survive this past year.
Amen!
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2015-11-20 , 19:29
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Welcome to the world of startups, all of you. They're always just about to go under. As mentioned in the press release, they've been in dire trouble several times since they started. Startups always are. The only thing that keeps them going is the belief that they are eventually going to succeed. Hopefully that belief is still alive and will get them through this, because you lot certainly won't.
 
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2015-11-20 , 19:31
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Tell that to their investors ..
Im an investor. ...
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2015-11-20 , 19:31
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Originally Posted by bluefoot View Post
Tell that to their investors ..
Why not? I think the problem is that the investors poured in too little. Being more generous would have paid off better. Probably with someone else at the helm though, I give you that.
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2015-11-20 , 19:32
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Originally Posted by nieldk View Post
This comes to mind
The worst mistake is to let other people suffer from your mistakes.

This works both ways...between backers and jolla!

Jolla should OC have cut some development to secure resources to ship tablet.
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2015-11-20 , 19:44
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
The worst mistake is to let other people suffer from your mistakes.

This works both ways...between backers and jolla!

Jolla should OC have cut some development to secure resources to ship tablet.
Well. Give it a show. I might even back it
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