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2012-06-04
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Originally Posted by misterc
Council from the last term (and continuing into this term) has been quietly doing that for some time now. This includes updating some of the infrastructure, which involves Nokia to a small extent. Work on it was slow going before because of the fiasco that has been Nokia over the past year. With the return of a few key people things are progressing nicely. We're not there yet, but there will be a few visible changes over the next few months.
Woody,
thank you for this comforting update.
isn't it true that NOKIA has been pushing to integrate MeeGo / Harmattan more with Maemo.org (again) since then?
Also, council meeting logs are being posted to the blog, for those interested.
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2012-06-04
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Well they should exactly what you are supposedly saying woody cuz otherwise they would loose another bunch of nokia mobile users on this planet we call earth.maemo.org has always been full of intellectuals and brilliant minds over the glob and guess what after being bored from apple or ad-droid a lot of people coming towards the open source and mainly for maemo/meego/mer and nemo.plasma KDE is also getting a lot of love.Customization is what really drawing people towards maemo.It is simply brilliant . Rest hope for the best to occur .
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2012-06-09
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I know it's friendly and community place, but lately, especially with N9 out (while it was less geek and more end user phone) there are a lot of new members and people, who not really going thru forum rules. E.g. : Post before search, bump and just ask developers about updates, telling that some of the apps stupid or useless. While it's disrespect to developers, who actually wrote something for harmattan/maemo. As not a lot of companies, devs support those platforms =( And i don't see too many action from moderator. Is there any way to make politics more strick or any plans on that?
P.S. I ask council and all those telling, it's open forum and freedom of speech people can just get this msg as my freedom of speech.
P.S. I ask council and all those telling, it's open forum and freedom of speech people can just get this msg as my freedom of speech.
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2012-06-09
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Originally Posted by ZogG
the Council has no authority on TMO (Talk Maemo Org)
I know it's friendly and community place, but lately, especially with N9 out (while it was less geek and more end user phone) there are a lot of new members and people, who not really going thru forum rules. E.g. : Post before search, bump and just ask developers about updates, telling that some of the apps stupid or useless. While it's disrespect to developers, who actually wrote something for harmattan/maemo. As not a lot of companies, devs support those platforms =( And i don't see too many action from moderator. Is there any way to make politics more strick or any plans on that?
P.S. I ask council and all those telling, it's open forum and freedom of speech people can just get this msg as my freedom of speech.
it is up to the owner of the site (Reggie) and his team of moderators to police TMO.
under every post's date is a link (Report This) that goes straight to the moderators.
like most thing here, it is community driven.
as to the N9 being a "mass product";
it was an attempt by NOKIA to go back to the "unibody" design of the early Maemo devices (770 & N800) without hardware keyboard.
as the accessories market on eBay seems to prove (a lot of hw kbd for iPotato device(s)) hw kbd isn't only a gadget for geeks.
anyone who has to write a lot of text (e-mails?) on a mobile needs it
N900 probably is the best Communicator NOKIA had... since the Communicator
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2012-06-12
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Hi
Before I can promote qt-components-10 to extras, I need some clarification about it's dependences, and the proper way to push it into maemo packaging infraestructure.
qt-components has two main soft requirements:
According to @qgil post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...65&postcount=4 We have a 'go ahead' to push those requirements, the question is where. A webfont version of nokia-pure is already on free-extras (ttf-nokiapure) but this post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=59 says that 'grey packages' should go on non-free repo. Where's the problem? Problem is that IIRC, we can promote a package that had dependences on non-free packages.
Question is, How I should proceed. I can package non-free icons on blanco-theme package and add a hard dependence to it on qt-components-10 package. I can also update a new nokia-fonts package with Harmattan PR1.2 fonts to extras-devel and also add a hard dependence to it. This is the easiest approach and It allow people to also work on a set of free-icons deployed with base theme http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84802 to be used on Non Nokia platforms (BB10)
I've already send a private message to @laasonen to see If he can update ttf-nokiapure package. I've already packaged nokia-pure fonts, and I can push to extras-devel, but I prefer to use their package if it's updated properly.
I also want to ask removal of qt-components package. It doesn't contain platform adaptation and brings a lot of confusion.
Before I can promote qt-components-10 to extras, I need some clarification about it's dependences, and the proper way to push it into maemo packaging infraestructure.
qt-components has two main soft requirements:
- nokia pure fonts: Nokia pure is internally used as the default font for components like Label, Button, etc. Althought fremantle version could make use of some sort of 'theme system' to change default font to one selected by user, changes introduced on nokia-pure PR1.2 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...ger-and-better makes a bit tough to perfect pixel UIs for both, Harmattan and Fremantle devices.
- icons from blanco theme: They aren't open but we can use on Fremantle and community projects like Mer.
According to @qgil post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...65&postcount=4 We have a 'go ahead' to push those requirements, the question is where. A webfont version of nokia-pure is already on free-extras (ttf-nokiapure) but this post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=59 says that 'grey packages' should go on non-free repo. Where's the problem? Problem is that IIRC, we can promote a package that had dependences on non-free packages.
Question is, How I should proceed. I can package non-free icons on blanco-theme package and add a hard dependence to it on qt-components-10 package. I can also update a new nokia-fonts package with Harmattan PR1.2 fonts to extras-devel and also add a hard dependence to it. This is the easiest approach and It allow people to also work on a set of free-icons deployed with base theme http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84802 to be used on Non Nokia platforms (BB10)
I've already send a private message to @laasonen to see If he can update ttf-nokiapure package. I've already packaged nokia-pure fonts, and I can push to extras-devel, but I prefer to use their package if it's updated properly.
I also want to ask removal of qt-components package. It doesn't contain platform adaptation and brings a lot of confusion.
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2012-06-12
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Hi inean, thanks for bringing it here.
The approach that you comment seems to be the more appropriate. I understand that the non-free icons should be in a separate package than blanco-theme, though.
The problem here is about promoting packages that depend on a non-free package. I must admit I had no idea that this was a problem, we will address this question to X-Fade, but I think that in the meantime you should be OK to push the packages to devel.
Regarding the package ttf-nokiapure, if you don't receive an answer from the original maintainer, please ask him for maintenance and even if you don't get answer, you can come back here and we will then grant you the permissions.
The approach that you comment seems to be the more appropriate. I understand that the non-free icons should be in a separate package than blanco-theme, though.
The problem here is about promoting packages that depend on a non-free package. I must admit I had no idea that this was a problem, we will address this question to X-Fade, but I think that in the meantime you should be OK to push the packages to devel.
Regarding the package ttf-nokiapure, if you don't receive an answer from the original maintainer, please ask him for maintenance and even if you don't get answer, you can come back here and we will then grant you the permissions.
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2012-06-12
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For those interested, meeting minutes for the last council meeting are updated on the Council Blog.
Sorry for the delay, but I was away and unable to post them internally until Monday, then delayed until Tuesday for review.
Sorry for the delay, but I was away and unable to post them internally until Monday, then delayed until Tuesday for review.
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2012-06-16
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It seems impossbile to get the rights for Extras, devel. The approvel is not working since no one is doing this since the last guy left or fired(who knows)
Is there anything the council can do. Ask someone whats going on?
Is there anything the council can do. Ask someone whats going on?
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2012-06-16
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris
Do you mean to get the approval to upload to Extras Devel?
It seems impossbile to get the rights for Extras, devel. The approvel is not working since no one is doing this since the last guy left or fired(who knows)
Is there anything the council can do. Ask someone whats going on?
Is that's the case, there is an automatic response email saying that the maintainer is not working on it any more but after a few days, you should receive the approval. For me it took about 3 or 4 days.
In any case, this is something to talk with X-Fade, at least to try to disable the automatic email.
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thank you for this comforting update.
isn't it true that NOKIA has been pushing to integrate MeeGo / Harmattan more with Maemo.org (again) since then?
information is a necessary though no sufficient condition to rationality...