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I agree (except for the minor point below), but was just wondering if it's me not seeing something.
The downside compared to Ovi being you have to organize payment yourself.
Originally Posted by benny1967
AFAIK you can distribute non-free things in the, well, non-free section of Extras
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as I thought they would be about non-free, proprietary software that can't be distributed through Extras in the first place.
The downside compared to Ovi being you have to organize payment yourself.
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2009-11-23
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attila77, you're right... I'm not aware of any documented process to get apps into the non-free section of Extras, though. Seems to be one of these "...as it happens" things. 
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Just in case this is useful for the discussion of ope source apps in Ovi:
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...ntle/non-free/
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-t...ntle/non-free/
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...ntle/non-free/
http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_E...ee.22_packages
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...ntle/non-free/
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-t...ntle/non-free/
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...ntle/non-free/
http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_E...ee.22_packages
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If there's no payment involved, I absolutely don't see the point. Unless Nokia is planning on completely removing Extras from devices and making users print out and fax in liability waivers to add it, then what possible reason could developers have for wanting to distribute open source software through Ovi instead of Extras?
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Ovi store could link to extras. The reason would be more people downloading the software from extras. It could be on maemo.org downloads numbers… Isn’t that nice?
If there's no payment involved, I absolutely don't see the point. Unless Nokia is planning on completely removing Extras from devices and making users print out and fax in liability waivers to add it, then what possible reason could developers have for wanting to distribute open source software through Ovi instead of Extras?
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2009-11-23
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Originally Posted by drm
The proposal isn't to link to Extras to improve exposure (that's the service Maemo Select is providing), but to upload OSS software directly to Ovi. There are only two reasons I can see to do this, to prepare for a future point where payment on OSS applications through Ovi is a feasible option or because Nokia is going to do something ill-advised with Extras.
Ovi store could link to extras. The reason would be more people downloading the software from extras. It could be on maemo.org downloads numbers… Isn’t that nice?
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
If that’s the case I’m frontally against. If Nokia wants extras on ovi, just need to link it. It doesn’t make sense to try to sell OSS made by the community.
The proposal isn't to link to Extras to improve exposure (that's the service Maemo Select is providing), but to upload OSS software directly to Ovi. There are only two reasons I can see to do this, to prepare for a future point where payment on OSS applications through Ovi is a feasible option or because Nokia is going to do something ill-advised with Extras.
I created that option in the brainstorm.
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2009-11-23
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I'm really afraid to ask this, and it is probably a stupid question anyway--
but why is product liability an issue for Ovi.com, and not maemo.org?
In other words, why can a developer upload a particular app to Maemo Extras without needing insurance, but not Ovi?
I must be missing something truly profound here...
but why is product liability an issue for Ovi.com, and not maemo.org?
In other words, why can a developer upload a particular app to Maemo Extras without needing insurance, but not Ovi?
I must be missing something truly profound here...
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I think it has been discussed before (search fails me), simply put, (Nokia through) Ovi is a much juicier and tangible legal target than a community site (even if it is heavily sponsored by Nokia).
but why is product liability an issue for Ovi.com, and not maemo.org?
In other words, why can a developer upload a particular app to Maemo Extras without needing insurance, but not Ovi?
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There's Solution#1, proposed by Quim:
Either it's meant as a response to threads like these
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34661
(where developers complain that it's difficult to get commercial software into Ovi Store). If so, I may have missed the point of the privious discussions, as I thought they would be about non-free, proprietary software that can't be distributed through Extras in the first place.
If there's a different background, then again I'm glad I voted for #1... It took years (literally) to establish Extras as the one repository for community software. Remember the days when you couldn't install application X because it depended on library Y which was provided by repository Z which you never heard about before? And you had to chase the forum for solutions? I'm not sure if I want a similar situation with Ovi and Extras.
Maybe before discussing the solutions, it would be cool to know what the problem is and why we'd want free software to move to the Nokia-controlled Ovi Store rather than the community-controlled Extras repository?