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2008-03-10 , 12:59
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#11
Hi, most of us here don't understand German. Can someone kindly translate this to English, pretty please
In short I would like to know three things:
- What all do I need in terms of HW (which IT, what kind of USB device, any additional things like special antennas etc.)
- What kind of SW (basic IT OS version, additional SW needed to decode the programs, any GUI etc.)
- Is there some kind of subscription required to decode the DVB-H?

There are many european countries where some or other kind of trial was carried out when Nokia introduced this DVB-H capable phone (if I remember right, it was some 7700 or 770 model). But the authentication happened with the SIM card on the phone to determine the subscription status.

Sgoerg, please share as much of information as you can with us!

Regards Hagar
 
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2008-03-10 , 13:40
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You need
  • a normal DVB-T USB-Stick (supportet from linux), the DVB-H transport stream is compatible with DVB-T
  • a powered hub
  • a new translated kernel, the usb support in the standard kernel has a bug
  • kernel-modules and firmware for the stick,
  • same tools (dvbnet, tzap)
  • the sdp-Files,
  • mplayer with sdp-Support and libfaad2 2.6.1,
  • no changes on OS,
  • and no subscription, all channels are free (currently in Berlin).

All tools, MPlayer, the kernel (OS2008, rx-34-2.6.21.0) and some modules you can find here: http://dvbh.kilu.de/dvbh-n800.tgz. I will try to write a howto in english (if i have time).



Stefan
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2008-03-10 , 13:47
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Originally Posted by qwerty12 View Post
On a side note, I'm sure lots of people know about this and do this but my cousins BMW has a feature where the built in tv won't work if the cars moving so he buys something and it tricks the tv into thinking the cars stationary
That is scary. I see so many drivers watching in-dash TV while driving... idiots.
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2008-03-10 , 15:54
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
That is scary. I see so many drivers watching in-dash TV while driving... idiots.
True. But I think he sold that BMW now anyway because he bought a crapper Audi for work.

But he was careful anyway, he only watched at traffic lights (it kinda sucks for passengers too) . But point taken.
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Originally Posted by Hagar View Post
There are many european countries where some or other kind of trial was carried out when Nokia introduced this DVB-H capable phone (if I remember right, it was some 7700 or 770 model). But the authentication happened with the SIM card on the phone to determine the subscription status.
The 7710 . Its actually considered as the precursor to the N800 as the Series 90 Symbian employed on it based the GUI for Maemo. Look at some screenshots and you will see what I mean.
 
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2008-03-10 , 20:22
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Originally Posted by sgoerg View Post
You need mplayer with sdp-Support and libfaad2 2.6.1
Hi, what exactly needs to be added to mplayer to support DVB-H? Is libfaad2 2.6.1 mandatory? Could you please submit a patch or feature request at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mplayer/ ?
 

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2008-03-11 , 06:15
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#17
Originally Posted by sgoerg View Post
You need
  • a normal DVB-T USB-Stick (supportet from linux), the DVB-H transport stream is compatible with DVB-T
  • a powered hub
  • a new translated kernel, the usb support in the standard kernel has a bug
  • kernel-modules and firmware for the stick,
  • same tools (dvbnet, tzap)
  • the sdp-Files,
  • mplayer with sdp-Support and libfaad2 2.6.1,
  • no changes on OS,
  • and no subscription, all channels are free (currently in Berlin).

All tools, MPlayer, the kernel (OS2008, rx-34-2.6.21.0) and some modules you can find here: http://dvbh.kilu.de/dvbh-n800.tgz. I will try to write a howto in english (if i have time).



Stefan
Hi Stefan!
Thank you very much for the information. Although it sounds a bit scary with all these kernel level stuff! I'm still willing to give it a try if you have time to translate the How-to in English. I already tried the bablefish route but you don't want to know the end result

Anyway, is there a list of compatible DVB-T tuners that will work with the NIT (more specifically N800)? Which one are you using? As far as the rest of the items on your list, they sound Latin to me But given a good step-by-step guide, I'm at least willing to try. In my old set-up, I used to have an external USB DVB-T tuner from Nebula. I remember lots of threads back then referring to Linux drivers for Nebula. I'm sure there are a lot of people here having some cheap DVB-T sticks at hand who would like to try out the "New" application for their NIT! If nothing else, we can always utter "beat that, Apple" to the iPhone users!

-Hagar
 
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2008-03-11 , 10:00
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I wonder if the Nokia Mobile TV Receiver SU-33W http://europe.nokia.com/A4787322 might be compatible in the future with ITs. Not a lot of information available yet other than it works with Nokia N73 over bluetooth.
 
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2008-03-11 , 18:28
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How did you get the data for sdp file? I am trying to view DVB-H channels in Finland with my desktop PC and everything seems to work fine until I need sdp file.
 
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2008-03-11 , 19:41
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Originally Posted by sgoerg View Post
It looks like Stefan has managed to rig up a custom USB dongle that gets power (to power the hub) from an external source, while sending the actual data to the N800. That looks very cool!

The next step is rigging up a battery pack that supplies this power. That'll make it into a truly portable digital TV.
 
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