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I have just published http://maemo.org/news/announcements/...ofono_project/ . It might help you understanding a bit better this interesting initiative.
In any case, end users and even the average developers can probably just relax. An open telephony stack might be a trascendental step in the long term in the industry, but I don't think is something that will make your neighbour buy a device or another because of the features it brings.
Originally Posted by Peet
You are welcome to ask all those questions in http://ofono.org directly. This is why they have created an open and public project.
Just looking at that diagram tells me this is a major announcement, but Ofono.org's about page still leaves me (as an end user) with some questions, such as:
In any case, end users and even the average developers can probably just relax. An open telephony stack might be a trascendental step in the long term in the industry, but I don't think is something that will make your neighbour buy a device or another because of the features it brings.
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Originally Posted by tso
At least will probably obsolete freesmartphones.org, which is a shame, because is a old and stable project
did they just obsolete openmoko???
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2009-05-12
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Again that is something that you should ask in oFono to get the right answers.
I did ask the same question to Aki (sitting not far away, in our offices in Helsinki) and he said that both Intel and Nokia developers really think the initial design of oFono is better. Don't make me repeat his technical arguments about commands, strings, wraps and protocols because they frankly fall beyond my technical knowledge. But it's a conscious decision based on software architecture and API design, not in ownership or Not Invented Here.
Also note the obvious scope of the freesmartphone.org, while oFono is by design not tied to any form factor.
That world is not that big. The core developers from both projects know each other and follow their commits. I would be surprised if the FSP core promoters were not aware of this move. Hopefully all these energies can be focused in a common direction.
I did ask the same question to Aki (sitting not far away, in our offices in Helsinki) and he said that both Intel and Nokia developers really think the initial design of oFono is better. Don't make me repeat his technical arguments about commands, strings, wraps and protocols because they frankly fall beyond my technical knowledge. But it's a conscious decision based on software architecture and API design, not in ownership or Not Invented Here.
Also note the obvious scope of the freesmartphone.org, while oFono is by design not tied to any form factor.
That world is not that big. The core developers from both projects know each other and follow their commits. I would be surprised if the FSP core promoters were not aware of this move. Hopefully all these energies can be focused in a common direction.
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2009-05-12
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Originally Posted by qgil
Fair enough, and I also disagree with a lot of the technical aspect of FSO, but I believe that a common standard/API should be achieved in that area and the FSO team already done a lot in that field.
Again that is something that you should ask in oFono to get the right answers.
I did ask the same question to Aki (sitting not far away, in our offices in Helsinki) and he said that both Intel and Nokia developers really think the initial design of oFono is better. Don't make me repeat his technical arguments about commands, strings, wraps and protocols because they frankly fall beyond my technical knowledge. But it's a conscious decision based on software architecture and API design, not in ownership or Not Invented Here.
Originally Posted by qgil
Of course they are aware
That world is not that big. The core developers from both projects know each other and follow their commits. I would be surprised if the FSP core promoters were not aware of this move. Hopefully all these energies can be focused in a common direction.
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2009-05-12
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This announcement is really exciting. It will allow developers to more easily build applications on top of a GSM stack.
Does that mean you can throw away your mobile phone? Probably not right away, but eventually anything that has an x86 processor will be able to use this and/or other libraries to build telephony applications that use the GSM/UMTS network. This means your application can carry voice over both the Internet and 2g and 3g networks.
This technology might not replace your phone tomorrow, but in the right hands it will surely give Skype and other VoIP apps a run for their money.
Does that mean you can throw away your mobile phone? Probably not right away, but eventually anything that has an x86 processor will be able to use this and/or other libraries to build telephony applications that use the GSM/UMTS network. This means your application can carry voice over both the Internet and 2g and 3g networks.
This technology might not replace your phone tomorrow, but in the right hands it will surely give Skype and other VoIP apps a run for their money.
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Originally Posted by VDVsx
Who writes that, btw? He talks abut the FSP developers as 'they' and not 'us'.
Of course they are aware
I can't insist more about going to oFono for answers instead of guessing here. It takes the same effort. They have an IRC channel, go there and ask.
Looking at logs you can see the issue already came up:
http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/ofono.txt
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2009-05-12
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Originally Posted by qgil
I saw the header of theblog. I even know this guy! Anyway, I hope technical reasons will prevail over time.
Who writes that, btw? He talks abaut the FSP developers as 'they' and not 'us'.
I have no doubt about the knowledge of Harald and other developers in similar positions. But it's also fair to say that it's not unexpected that an initiative coming from two big corporations starting something from scratch will generate this type of first reaction response.
Yet we have seen many young and brave open source projects starting from scratch because they thought their plan and implementation were more suitable than an old and stable project.
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2009-05-12
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Originally Posted by qgil
Harald is a former OpenMoko employee, and used to work in low level stuff related to FSO (mainly GSM modem stuff).
Who writes that, btw? He talks abut the FSP developers as 'they' and not 'us'.
I can't insist more about going to oFono for answers instead of guessing here. It takes the same effort. They have an IRC channel, go there and ask.
Looking at logs you can see the issue already came up:
http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/ofono.txt
Thanks for the IRC discussion link.
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2009-05-12
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A good summary of oFono technical aspects (with some speculation :P): LinuxDevices Article
Interesting discussion around oFono vs FSO: OpenMoko ML
Last edited by VDVsx; 2009-05-12 at 11:56.
Interesting discussion around oFono vs FSO: OpenMoko ML
Last edited by VDVsx; 2009-05-12 at 11:56.
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