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2012-04-17
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Originally Posted by zoxir
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2012-04-18
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Originally Posted by dumpystig
I like the name "failop"
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2012-04-18
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Originally Posted by PMaff
Maybe they misspoke and meant 'GENERAL PROTECTION FAULT's?
Btw.: "data faults on handsets"...they are talking in general about WP7?
You folks MUST see this.. heh! Tech News Today talking about the Nokia Lumia 900's reception:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOPy9jNhEjc&t=33m58s
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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2012-04-19
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Originally Posted by PMaff
And here are the numbers:
The fail goes on:
"Nokia debt downgraded as company struggles
On Monday, Moody's Investors Service downgraded Nokia's corporate debt to near-junk status. The company's decline in sales numbers and 35 percent fall in revenue have earned it a Baa3 rating, or one step away from non-investment grade. This latest drop marks the most recent stumbling block for a company that was once the pinnacle of Finnish innovation and pioneered the global rise in mobile phones.
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...ess-around.ars
"Devices & Services
Smart Devices net sales -52%
Smart Devices volume (mn units) -51%"
http://www.results.nokia.com/results...lts2012Q1e.pdf
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2012-04-19
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Its not a fail. They knew that there will be nadir as they transition from Symbian to WP. This is not unexpected at all. They need to get rid of Symbian as soon as possible and churn out more Lumias. Symbian is sooooo yesterday and needs to be deep sixed. Hope they continue to refine Meego, but I dont think they got money for that now
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2012-04-19
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
There was a target "market share up slightly" for 2010 "compared
Its not a fail.
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This is not unexpected at all.
to 2009" already.
There was a target "mobile device volume market share flat, compared to 2009"
( http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...7-partnership/
below "Financials not good").
In this light it is a huge failure.
But you are right: we expected all that after Nokia announced the WP7 agony.
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2012-04-19
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
abill? Is that you in there?
Its not a fail. They knew that there will be nadir as they transition from Symbian to WP. This is not unexpected at all. They need to get rid of Symbian as soon as possible and churn out more Lumias. Symbian is sooooo yesterday and needs to be deep sixed. Hope they continue to refine Meego, but I dont think they got money for that now
- Nokia To Make Cuts After Huge Drop In Sales
- Nokia Announces More Bad News As It Waits For Smartphone Revival
- Nokia sales chief to step down as smartphone disappoints
- Nokia admits Brits just aren't that into Windows Phone
We all predicted this.
Howcome the multi-millionaire captains of industry at the helm of Nokia couldn't see this coming?
lumiaman, what part of the articles linked don't you understand? Help us help you!
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2012-04-19
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They did see the plunge coming, that is why they went for someone outside the company, Elop. They were running out of ideas. They had nothing at the table that could compete with other platforms, and went for WP. The current platforms of Symbian, Meego, Maemo, etc.... are not good enough at the high end. There is no need to be joyful with negative news. Its expected of a dinosaur that took more than 5 years to see what is coming down the pike. Elop is doing the right thing, whether its little too late, I dont know. Perhaps they should have gone with Android? Perhaps. I am still optimistic. But before they get there, NOKIA willl definitely shrink. They enjoyed a good 10 year ride, everything good eventually ends. Hope they can rebuild it.
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2012-04-19
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Please explain why WP is a better choice than N9-running-Harmattan... or is WP "not good enough at the high end" either?
They did see the plunge coming, that is why they went for someone outside the company, Elop. They were running out of ideas. They had nothing at the table that could compete with other platforms, and went for WP. The current platforms of Symbian, Meego, Maemo, etc.... are not good enough at the high end.
Originally Posted by Lumiaman
It's nice that you're optimistic (joyful?) I guess that's still possible if you choose to ignore what's happening to Nokia. I'm not joyful. I won't even get to enjoy some good old-fashioned Schadenfreude when Elop eventually "moves on to a new challenge" or whatever, because history suggests that he'll be given a fat stack of cash when he leaves.
There is no need to be joyful with negative news. Its expected of a dinosaur that took more than 5 years to see what is coming down the pike. Elop is doing the right thing, whether its little too late, I dont know. Perhaps they should have gone with Android? Perhaps. I am still optimistic. But before they get there, NOKIA willl definitely shrink.
Originally Posted by Lumiaman
While it's true that everything good eventually ends - and that Nokia was already in trouble well before Elop arrived - not every good ship has to be set on fire, plundered by pirates masquerading as the crew and then scuttled...
They enjoyed a good 10 year ride, everything good eventually ends. Hope they can rebuild it.
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Originally Posted by shallimus
N9 is a beta OS. It has no chance of succeeding and markets show it. It was advertised heavily in China and few other markets, yet it failed to inspire. It can not compete for the common man/woman paycheck. Dont blame Elop for what has been happening for years at NOKIA. Elop perhaps came too late, but that is NOKIA's decision alone. They hired him because they clearly wanted a change in direction. He gave it to them. Whether you like it or not is a different thing. He made a bold move and may lose a job over it.
Please explain why WP is a better choice than N9-running-Harmattan... or is WP "not good enough at the high end" either?
It's nice that you're optimistic (joyful?) I guess that's still possible if you choose to ignore what's happening to Nokia. I'm not joyful. I won't even get to enjoy some schadenfreude when Elop eventually "moves on to a new challenge" or whatever, because history suggests that he'll be given a fat stack of cash when he leaves.
While it's true that everything good eventually ends - and that Nokia was already in trouble well before Elop arrived - not every good ship has to be set on fire, plundered by pirates masquerading as the crew and then scuttled...
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