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2016-10-20
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Did you buy it for the "smart" features, or did the TV that had the resolution etc. you wanted just happen to have smart features?
I do own a tizen top notch tv from last year.
I get why average consumers buy smart TVs but I would have expected you (and most other people on this site) to stick a general purpose computer behind the TV and use that instead with some media centre software like kodi - so much easier to update and tinker with. If an update goes wrong with your TV you could end up with a shiny brick, which is a rather strong incentive against developing for it!
Or did you buy it to try Tizen? Just curious!
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2016-10-20
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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw
I bought it to support tizen and for the epic image + the Oneconnect which is great. Will switch to oled next year.
Did you buy it for the "smart" features, or did the TV that had the resolution etc. you wanted just happen to have smart features?
I get why average consumers buy smart TVs but I would have expected you (and most other people on this site) to stick a general purpose computer behind the TV and use that instead with some media centre software like kodi - so much easier to update and tinker with. If an update goes wrong with your TV you could end up with a shiny brick, which is a rather strong incentive against developing for it!
Or did you buy it to try Tizen? Just curious!
Still, top TVs Are more expensive than phones so maybe you should expect better software? If you pay 5000-10000 Euro maybe your tv shall work a bit better even if you dont use it?
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2016-10-20
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TV!? WTF is people still use TV? It is deprecated long ago.
A use my laptop for film/documentary/news.
A use my laptop for film/documentary/news.
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2016-10-20
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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw
the thing is, you can't actually avoid smart TV. Especially if you go for some higher model.
Did you buy it for the "smart" features, or did the TV that had the resolution etc. you wanted just happen to have smart features?
I get why average consumers buy smart TVs but I would have expected you (and most other people on this site) to stick a general purpose computer behind the TV and use that instead with some media centre software like kodi - so much easier to update and tinker with. If an update goes wrong with your TV you could end up with a shiny brick, which is a rather strong incentive against developing for it!
Or did you buy it to try Tizen? Just curious!
So, since I/him/we/most of us end up with one it's OK to explore, compare and bitch about how shitty they are since we paid for them.
It's not that I expected root and CM or some other custom rom or something like a giant tablet that can do wonders. But It would be nice that those 1% of android features and features that one expects from the TV just work.
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2016-10-20
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
So would I if I were a student or a single man living in a studio flat the size of a shoe box. But we old farts with a family want to sit down on the sofa with the whole family and watch together.
A use my laptop for film/documentary/news.
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2016-10-20
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Add the experiance to that too, some stuff is not even visible in 17 inch screen
So would I if I were a student or a single man living in a studio flat the size of a shoe box. But we old farts with a family want to sit down on the sofa with the whole family and watch together.
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2016-10-20
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Thanks for replying Dave.
In my mind some smart features are actually a negative - I wouldn't want my TV, running some embedded OS that will definitely not receive security updates for the whole of its life, to be networked... that's both an unnecessary security risk and an easy mechanism for manufacturers to collect usage stats and other tracking BS.
I just want it to have a good picture and sound, have built-in digital receiver / "freeview" and maybe some storage for recording programmes. And good ports... that's it. I'll leave the networking to software I can trust and maintain properly.
Originally Posted by kinggo
Yeah I agree, just curious whether the smart features were seen as a positive when making a decision about what to purchase.
the thing is, you can't actually avoid smart TV. Especially if you go for some higher model.
So, since I/him/we/most of us end up with one it's OK to explore, compare and bitch about how shitty they are since we paid for them.
In my mind some smart features are actually a negative - I wouldn't want my TV, running some embedded OS that will definitely not receive security updates for the whole of its life, to be networked... that's both an unnecessary security risk and an easy mechanism for manufacturers to collect usage stats and other tracking BS.
I just want it to have a good picture and sound, have built-in digital receiver / "freeview" and maybe some storage for recording programmes. And good ports... that's it. I'll leave the networking to software I can trust and maintain properly.
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2016-10-20
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Also, do smart TVs now have better support for open file formats and codecs? The last one I used wouldn't play most .mkv files, which was really frustrating. It's not like they would have had to pay loads in royalties to support the extra formats.
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2016-10-20
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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw
I totally agree. When I had to buy my TV (2 years ago), I looked specifically to TVs that didn't have smart features (as I use a HTPC with OpenELEC). Wasn't easy to find it then, so I can expect it to be very hard to find a non smart TV now that has a good picture and sound quality and a decent size. I can find some 32 inches TV without smart features, but everything above is smart.
Yeah I agree, just curious whether the smart features were seen as a positive when making a decision about what to purchase.
In my mind some smart features are actually a negative - I wouldn't want my TV, running some embedded OS that will definitely not receive security updates for the whole of its life, to be networked... that's both an unnecessary security risk and an easy mechanism for manufacturers to collect usage stats and other tracking BS.
I just want it to have a good picture and sound, have built-in digital receiver / "freeview" and maybe some storage for recording programmes. And good ports... that's it. I'll leave the networking to software I can trust and maintain properly.
I hope my TV will last as long as possible, until the industry finds out that they are some people wanting dump TVs.
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