Platform is also providing its own application framework
Some profiles even support native (C/C++)

And this has helped with adoption?

http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/pr...-Z4?2017-05-12

Annpunced! Selected countries...

With the languishing situation for Linux flagship phones, it might be a situation where I decide to go back to a dumb phone which I can tether over Bluetooth to say a Cherry Trail AMD64 tablet with a hacked kernel running Mint or Debian. I rocked an old Linux Zaurus for years IR tethering to GPRS. Now you can get a cheap dumb-ish water resistant phone with a giant battery pod function, UHF walkie talkie mode when out of cell range, or even a built in POCSAG paging module. Unfortunately the military grade tough waterproof Chinese shoehorned-in Android smart phones seem to be a horrible binary blobbed nightmare possibly difficult to securely root and with no chance of ever upgrading or flashing a more acceptable Android fork like LineageOS.
I still use my N900 every day, but it is starting to feel old like my Zaurus did around '09-'10, but I feel that there is little new ground to be broken with pocket sized mobile devices but I simply dislike Android, even Cyanogen/LineageOS and an apple walled garden is a non-starter.

Double Ditto Here
- Already doing that with my ancient ACER W4
but the Android unit I was using to feed it has lost the plot.
So I am looking again fro a tether phone,
- my Ubuntu E5 battery is also no longer holding its own either.

This idea of using a TIZEN or Sailfish as a modem
might actually be workable,
- blocking an Android with all the bells and whistles chirping
back to whatever spook hq seems like a hopeless hack,
but maybe we can get a Tizen locked down enough to trust ?
I have seen one locally, maybe I will have another look....

What do we think about this?

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/0...-hes-ever-seen

That guy has not seen much code but it's good that it's pointed out. More code should be available for investigation.

Why do you think jolla don't dare to release the code for sailfish

Cars, airplanes, nuklear plants, oses can be hacked.

One of the comments in that slashdot post linked this article about the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (the graphical toolkit for Tizen, no Qt or Gtk here).

Definitely read it, the article manages to be both informative and quite funny. There's no way in hell I'd buy a Tizen product after reading it.

But which dumb phone?

I'm finding it really hard to find something that has 3g (has to as many carriers are 3g+ only) and isn't designed for the elderly.

Since the rise of the smartphone, the only dumb phones left are pretty low quality disposable devices or niche things like Doro do.

Not too big, battery life of a few weeks, 3G, replaceable battery, waterproof preferably.

My other half is still rocking a Nokia C3-01. Lovely thing apart from the unusable touch screen which I have to replace every 6 months or so as it stops responding. OS is a bit meh too but not untypical for a dumb phone.

It's most disappointing that first Microsoft and then the new Nokia seem to have ignored 3G in their dumb phones.

Having seen enlightenment [e16/e17]
on something I tried a couple of years back,
it seemed appropriate to go have a read.
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whoosh - the first thing I noticed was this article was -over- 2 years old.
It seemed to explain some of the inconsistencies I saw back then,
but I thought perhaps this was just a casualty of the reorganization I thought I had noticed when browsing to their websites.
Nope.
Business as usual.
The enlightenment story appear to be a very strong demo tool
for how to be consistently inane over the years.

The comments are pure laugh-medicine - will cure any medical condition
and persuade me that maybe my previous reconsideration of trying a TIZEN as a tether might have just been one more really bad idea.

The comments are still going strong, two years later,
and if anything, really illustrate just how dumb it is to buy
anything Samsung makes that might in some way be connected to the internet in any fashion.
I had a Samsung washing machine once,
but their electronics division confirm serious doubts I have had.