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Ok ...
Firstly...
Before I think about spending my time...or money...in any possible way ..
I want to see an "end user / purchase ready"
No snake oil...no flim flam ..no flashy promises or hints or whathaveyou ...
I want to see a "purchase here" button...not "invest here" button...not "support here" button...not "donate here" button ....nor a "preorder here" button...
I want to see a proper independent review done...and their appraisal.
I want to see a proper set-up to deal with repairs...refunds...parts...service...
All of which is asking no more or less than asking for what is expected from any manufacturer .
Until that happens...
I ignore start ups ..
The bad ones ...the good ones...
Even the best meaning...
Until they cement their wishes and rainbows into practicality ..
They are just all smoke, mirrors and bull***** until they cough up with the goods.
Until they come through...
I call bull***** on each and every one of them..
And any that do come through...
Do not deserve any contrition from me...
Since they are only doing what they should be in the first place.
As far as the cookie issue...
Yeah...love that...
Totally unnecessary ...and disturbing...considering.
Firstly...
Before I think about spending my time...or money...in any possible way ..
I want to see an "end user / purchase ready"
No snake oil...no flim flam ..no flashy promises or hints or whathaveyou ...
I want to see a "purchase here" button...not "invest here" button...not "support here" button...not "donate here" button ....nor a "preorder here" button...
I want to see a proper independent review done...and their appraisal.
I want to see a proper set-up to deal with repairs...refunds...parts...service...
All of which is asking no more or less than asking for what is expected from any manufacturer .
Until that happens...
I ignore start ups ..
The bad ones ...the good ones...
Even the best meaning...
Until they cement their wishes and rainbows into practicality ..
They are just all smoke, mirrors and bull***** until they cough up with the goods.
Until they come through...
I call bull***** on each and every one of them..
And any that do come through...
Do not deserve any contrition from me...
Since they are only doing what they should be in the first place.
As far as the cookie issue...
Yeah...love that...
Totally unnecessary ...and disturbing...considering.
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242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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2019-06-07
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#13
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Originally Posted by vitaminj
Hmmm, where might this info be saved to?
Press "learn more" then "Reject all" then "Save"
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2019-06-07
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen
The World Cookie I.
Hmmm, where might this info be saved to?
The Great Cookie.
The Cookie to end all cookies.
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2019-06-07
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Ohhh...
I know where it all ends...
In times of crisis like these...
we need a particular kind of superhero
with a particular skill set ..
to handle these dark dark times..
Someone who can cope with the world-wide flood of cookies...
with ease...
I know where it all ends...
In times of crisis like these...
we need a particular kind of superhero
with a particular skill set ..
to handle these dark dark times..
Someone who can cope with the world-wide flood of cookies...
with ease...
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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Owner of :
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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
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you folks should stop the offtopic of some random page and just focus on cheap, almost blob free linux phone getting ready to relase in autumn. and let me tell you, pine folks deliver. and let me tell you #2, allwinner is crappy when it comes to software support, but luckily open source community made it almost blob free and mainline almost all parts. i'm definitely getting one 
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2019-06-08
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You may very well be right Kot...
Very good points there...
Still.....
until impartial 3rd party reviews are in. ...
until the necessary structure is set up ...support ...service...etc.
until the device is on the literal shelf for sale...
I don't believe a freakin' word anyone says about anything in the any-behaviour-goes ...wild west.. of the mobile world.
I don't care if it has an endorsement by the Holy See vouching for the honesty of the manufacturers ..
It isn't up to me to blindly believe and be a sucker...
It is up to the peddlars to deliver.
Very good points there...
Still.....
until impartial 3rd party reviews are in. ...
until the necessary structure is set up ...support ...service...etc.
until the device is on the literal shelf for sale...
I don't believe a freakin' word anyone says about anything in the any-behaviour-goes ...wild west.. of the mobile world.
I don't care if it has an endorsement by the Holy See vouching for the honesty of the manufacturers ..
It isn't up to me to blindly believe and be a sucker...
It is up to the peddlars to deliver.
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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2019-06-09
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What endso said.
Plus, "offtopic"? Can you point to a single off-topic post in this thread?
Plus, "offtopic"? Can you point to a single off-topic post in this thread?
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2019-06-09
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for example:
The World Cookie I.
The Great Cookie.
The Cookie to end all cookies.
and everything not related to the news of the hardware/software. which as i repeat is great news
The World Cookie I.
The Great Cookie.
The Cookie to end all cookies.
and everything not related to the news of the hardware/software. which as i repeat is great news
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contact with me: #osc or #maemo on freenode/ircnet or /query KotCzarny
oscp - media player with network remote and almost no dependencies (pc/lin/win/maemo(n8x0/n900), x86/x64/armel/armhf) - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 - if you like it, tell others.
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Had they said something like "manage", that would have been a different thing.
As I said,
Thanks for reading it for me, though. Turns out I was right. I did not miss anything.
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