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2017-03-29
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#12
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If they are moving their emphasis away from configurations with a UI (ie. mobile/desktop), then will that also mean that Mir won't be a priority any more? How long before they bin it and go with Wayland?
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2017-03-30
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Originally Posted by mrsellout
They have entirely too much FACE invested in MIR.
If they are moving their emphasis away from configurations with a UI (ie. mobile/desktop), then will that also mean that Mir won't be a priority any more? How long before they bin it and go with Wayland?
Anticipate the exquisitely slow strangulation of the entire ecosystem,
dragged out over a decade, rather than any kind of reconciliation.
#Abandonware
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One fordevelopment testing Chopping Onions
One forsaltwater immersion power testing resurrected ! parts scavenging
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ISO8601 clock mod and Momental_IST clock mod
Printing your Email with the N900
Three n900s: One for stable working platform,
One for
One for
My Mods for Wonko's Advanced Clock Plugin:
ISO8601 clock mod and Momental_IST clock mod
Printing your Email with the N900
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2017-03-30
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How much work is required on specific UT stuff now, I mean once we get that vanishing mythical unicorn of a mainlined Linux kernel which serves both Android and GNU Linux. Then we can all have horrible bin drivers for at least one kernel version of everything. Kinda like the situation we have with the Maemo tablets and phones.
AFAIK the mess of UT is mostly due to android specific video drivers requiring surfaceflinger and whatever does android sound and having to do a localhost VNC for video kludge/hack to (badly) run normal x11 apps.
AFAIK the mess of UT is mostly due to android specific video drivers requiring surfaceflinger and whatever does android sound and having to do a localhost VNC for video kludge/hack to (badly) run normal x11 apps.
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2017-04-05
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They're defaulting back to Gnome for next year's LTS, and it sounds more ominous for UT.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/u...ktop-not-unity
Ubuntu 18.04 To Ship with GNOME Desktop, Not Unity
By Joey Sneddon under Breaking 1 min ago
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Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will use GNOME as its default desktop environment, not Unity.
In an extraordinary blog post that I have yet to fully digest, Mark Shuttleworth has announced that Canonical is to end its investment in Unity 8, Ubuntu for Phones and tablets, and end its ambition to seek “convergence”.
“I’m writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell,” he writes.
“We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.”
“We will continue to produce the most usable open source desktop in the world, to maintain the existing LTS releases, to work with our commercial partners to distribute that desktop, to support our corporate customers who rely on it, and to delight the millions of IoT and cloud developers who innovate on top of it,” he says.
Wow.
Details are still scant as this news is literally just breaking. This post will be updated as I sup my coffee and resolve the shock.
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2017-04-05
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Ubuntu on a phone was a bad decision to me to begin with. Other bad decisions were made and it seems as if the user will ultimately lose an option due to these decisions.
Can't say that I'm surprised.
Can't say that I'm surprised.
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2017-04-05
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Curious as to why you thought it was a bad idea? I think it showed promise and was an interesting alternative os for phones, but took too long.
Ubuntu on a phone was a bad decision to me to begin with.
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2017-04-05
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#18
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everything took them to loooooooooong. And at the end they didn't deliver anything. And mainly because they wanted Mir while wayland was good enough for everybody else.
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2017-04-05
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Originally Posted by richie
It didn't seem like it was truly their focus. The announcements, the approach all seemed to be a proof of concept; not something that was clearly thought out with the user in mind. It was an unnecessary tech demo.
Curious as to why you thought it was a bad idea? I think it showed promise and was an interesting alternative os for phones, but took too long.
Rich
That's the reasoning behind my statement. No soul was put into this endeavor by the most forward-facing people. I do not doubt the engineers that probably truly wanted it to happen. I just did not get that same sense of purpose from all of the people that handled the PR, announcements and even direction.
Commit, go big, prove the world needs what you're capable of doing, market it or at least announce it well... and then do it. That clearly did not happen. And that sucks... we need more options. Not less.
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2017-04-05
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Originally Posted by richie
It wasn't a bad idea. It was bad execution. Going against the grain of rest of Linux ecosystem (Mir. vs Wayland etc.) will make it much more costly to keep it competitive. Personally more destructive was the architecture decisions to mimic Apple's restrictive application lifecycle model. It strangled pretty much my own interest in the platform.
Curious as to why you thought it was a bad idea? I think it showed promise and was an interesting alternative os for phones, but took too long.
SailfishOS has a much more sensible approach that I can get behind with true multitasking and fewer restrictions on applications.
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Focus is IoT, Server and Cloud. Desktop likely is going to diminish in input, that is my best guess. It never made money...
Remember, this is not official. Canonical remains mum.