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2007-10-02
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Yes, even I am irritated by having to install everything again. I recently had to install all my programs TWICE IN ONE DAY because of a problem I have mercifully forgotten. Now to have to do it again is a real pain. Sometimes I would say that Linux is an operating system for people with lots of extra time (and Windows is for people with lots of extra money).
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2007-10-02
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
I strongly disagree with that. It doesn't suck.
And as to backup: Won't be of much help to me; I've got too many applications installed without Application Manager (which sucks anyway).
In any case, application manager is an interface to the Debian package management system, which is basically very good. The point is thus that as long as you have your repositories (catalogues in application manager speak) in order then they will be preserved by a restore after upgrade. You'll still have to re-install though, but that's pretty painless if you don't have to hunt for repositories or .install files (it took me all of fifteen minutes to reflash, restore and reinstall all my software from repos after the previous firmware upgrade).
If at all possible one should IMO install from repositories when possible, install from .deb only when that's the sole alternative. In the latter case you should then also keep them collected in a directory on a memory card, for easy re-installation.
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-- Metalayer-crawler delenda est.
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2007-10-02
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Originally Posted by geneven
Linux has nothing to do with this. It has everything to do with how Nokia decided to do things with firmware images (like they did for their phones).
Yes, even I am irritated by having to install everything again. I recently had to install all my programs TWICE IN ONE DAY because of a problem I have mercifully forgotten. Now to have to do it again is a real pain. Sometimes I would say that Linux is an operating system for people with lots of extra time (and Windows is for people with lots of extra money).
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2007-10-02
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Why is that?
That doesn't sound reassuring.
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2007-10-02
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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Originally Posted by TA-t3
Oh, Debian package management is Good <TM>. But Application Manager is crap. And your advice to install from repositories is a particularly nice example of the crappiness of Application Manager: It takes just the one repository to be offline for the wrong five minutes to have you wading through logfiles to find out where Crapplication Manager choked on.
I strongly disagree with that. It doesn't suck.
In any case, application manager is an interface to the Debian package management system, which is basically very good. The point is thus that as long as you have your repositories (catalogues in application manager speak) in order then they will be preserved by a restore after upgrade. You'll still have to re-install though, but that's pretty painless if you don't have to hunt for repositories or .install files (it took me all of fifteen minutes to reflash, restore and reinstall all my software from repos after the previous firmware upgrade).
If at all possible one should IMO install from repositories when possible, install from .deb only when that's the sole alternative. In the latter case you should then also keep them collected in a directory on a memory card, for easy re-installation.
That is so eighties software...
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2007-10-02
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Originally Posted by zerojay
See my remarks on Crapplication Manager...
Why is that?
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2007-10-02
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Karel... I.... I just don't even have words for your explanation.
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2007-10-02
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Can someone PM me a kernel image, I have no access to pc, i am out of town, and not returning until Friday I can use fanoush's kernel flasher, but I do not have a way to unpack it???
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2007-10-02
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Well... For starters, it's not an explanation, it's a rant. I'm good at those.
Karel... I.... I just don't even have words for your explanation.
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2007-10-02
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Originally Posted by Tomas
Why should it concern 2007HE ? The 770 doesn't use SD cards, much less SDHC...
http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_80293
I guess it will take a while to hit 2007HE, but at least it's on the way now. I've had the memory card screwed up a few times by this bug.