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2007-10-22 , 13:14
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Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
Skype isn't open source. That in mind... what would Skype (Ebay) win if they added video to the tablets? They make their revenue from SkypeIn and SkypeOut, which doesn't need video. Ebay has stated that they are actually disappointed with the earnings from Skype in general and are viewing it as a flop.
Believe it or not, the skype team is still the skype team. They have a product that they want to make into the best darned product they can. Management business considerations can be taken into account, but that only works for on-the-clock hours.

Linux guys being linux guys, they could very well add the feature in off-the-clock time, as long as the linux dev team doesn't get decimated by a budget-conscious management.

Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
So the only thing that _might_ get them to add video (if hardware on the tablets permits) is if some other company makes it (Gizmo, Gtalk) and they see a significant migration in their actual customers who use SkypeIn/Out to the other programs (Gizmo, Gtalk, w.e.) because of the video feature.

And before all that even happens there has to be general support for video in linux, or a _really_ easy way for them to add it to the tablets.

What Nokia would win if the video actually works on the tablets as intended is pretty obvious I guess.
If they add video support to the linux port, it's going to come back to the v4l and/or v4l2 kernel video interface at one point or another. That means that any camera supported under v4l should work.

The camera on the N8x0 has a v4l2 driver, and thus the most likely ways of implementing video support for linux would also apply to the tablet version.
 
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2007-10-22 , 13:23
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exactly!

And that is the problem...

Does another IM for N800 uses the webcam?
Msn Messenger?
 
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2007-10-22 , 13:40
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Originally Posted by Ar-ras View Post
exactly!

And that is the problem...

Does another IM for N800 uses the webcam?
Msn Messenger?
Have you tried Gizmo? Gizmo offers support for Video and it's also IM with support for other IM platforms..

http://www.gizmoproject.com/learnmore-nokia800.html
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2007-10-22 , 13:41
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Well, Skype added video to the Windows version of Skype presumably for a reason. As they're for-profit, the reasoning was probably that it would make the product more popular. Can't see why the same reasoning wouldn't work for the tablet market..
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2007-10-22 , 13:51
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Originally Posted by larux View Post
Have you tried Gizmo? Gizmo offers support for Video and it's also IM with support for other IM platforms..

http://www.gizmoproject.com/learnmore-nokia800.html
Gizmo dont loads the n800 camera anymore... If I pull out the camera it doesnt start, as it normally was.
 
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2007-10-22 , 15:10
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Originally Posted by DataPath View Post
Believe it or not, the skype team is still the skype team. They have a product that they want to make into the best darned product they can. Management business considerations can be taken into account, but that only works for on-the-clock hours.

Linux guys being linux guys, they could very well add the feature in off-the-clock time, as long as the linux dev team doesn't get decimated by a budget-conscious management.
I _really_ wouldn't bet on that one. The developers can't add features that aren't exclusively permitted by management!

If it was so simple like you think, Nokia developers would have included OGG, AD2P and PIM apps support in their off-hours. And maemo is even OSS.
 
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2007-10-22 , 16:38
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Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
If it was so simple like you think, Nokia developers would have included OGG, AD2P and PIM apps support in their off-hours. And maemo is even OSS.
Haven't they added AD2P in OS2008? Judging from the state of Bluetooth audio support in Linux in general, it probably was not ready before (and presumably Nokia spent developer time in making it ready -- one of the reason I buy the Nokia tablets; getting Linux ready for the end-user).

Lack of PIM support is rather sad, yes. I can now sync my calendar with Google Calendar, using third-party solutions, but have not found a good OpenSync-based address book syncer.
 
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2007-10-22 , 16:45
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No AD2P in OS2008.
 
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2007-10-22 , 16:48
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Isnt it possible to put that all features in one IT OS 2008 Special Edition ?

Or are there some copyright infringements? because i dont wanna hack that whole stuff into my N800 after every update or recovery flash.
 
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2007-10-22 , 16:54
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Originally Posted by ColdFusion View Post
No AD2P in OS2008.
But i saw a video of thoughtfix and his friend talk using bluetooth headsets via gtalk. I agree it is not A2dp but my thinking is that atleast it supports voip via a bluetooth headset...

Check this link.

http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archive...-internet-call

And some one did mention that thoughtfix tried a2dp out of the box and it did work. lets see
 
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