Ok. You are right.
But Nokia Tablet is marketed as a commercial final product, nothing intended for developers as a kit.
Maemo tablet is an embedded system and if not working properly running OS and applications made by Nokia is not a commercial product.

I would like to hear an opinion from the Commission of the Euaropean Union if a manufacturer entering EU's market with a commercial product still showing bugs, generating operation problems to users is not violating provisions of the Consumers Rights Protection Act.

The strage thing about Nokia tablet is users are posting problems and questions get answered by other users not Nokia staff members, project manager, project development team members.

I would prefer Nokia Maemo project manager to spend 1-2 hours daily on-line at this public forum or another, giving official immediate answers to issues raised by users of Nokia tablet.

Telling what's wrong with application catalog, what's wrong with slow server.
Showing any interest in Nokia tablet as a brand product and its users.

To make Nokia tablet a mainstream product you don't have to invent more millions into a project, you just need to give clear description where we are and what can be offered to users, customers and at what price.

Nokia is a big corporation to hire some developers or put them on a contract, to test Nokia tablet before it is released and test every OS, test any and every applications ported to maemo
and to give clear and exact description how to install each one and what problems it may generate.

Nokia Tablet is an embedded system not PC, I can install another OS and still use it for any purpose I find it fit.
So Nokia Tablet must be supported by its manufacturer for a full life-time, not 1 year but for as long as it still works.

Buying a cheap $100 MP3/4 player from China I can expect it to work from the box not generating any problems.
Buying a cheap $99 car navigation device from China I can still expect to have it working smoothly for the purpose it was manufactured and intended to.

Buying $400 N810 I can expect to buy a good quality product fit for car navigation, Sirf III based embedded system.


Please ask Nokia director , Nokia tablet product manager to visit this forum and do the right job.

Steve from Apple is not afraid to go public.

Darius

Where does he come up with this stuff? . . .

Are you speaking in the name of Nokia ?

Sorta like . . . In the Name of our Lord Nokia! It is he who commands you! Begone, foul demon!

MEMO/07/572
Brussels, 12 December 2007
The unfair commercial practices Directive. questions and answers

1. The objective

What is an unfair commercial practice?

A commercial practice is an activity linked to the promotion, sale or supply of a product to consumers.

It covers any act, omission, course of conduct, representation or commercial communication – including advertising and marketing – which is carried out by a trader. If it is unfair, this means it is deemed to be unacceptable with regards to the consumer, according to specified criteria.

What does the Directive aim to do?

The Unfair Commercial Practices (UCP) Directive aims to clarify consumers’ rights and to simplify cross-border trade.

Common rules and principles will give consumers the same protection against unfair practices and rogue traders whether they are buying from their corner shop or purchasing from a website based abroad. It will also mean that businesses will be able to advertise and market to all 480 million consumers in the EU, in the same way as to their domestic customers.

The aim is to boost consumer confidence and give business a uniform and transparent EU wide set of rules.

2 The overall structure of the directive

How is the Directive structured and what types of behaviour will be prohibited?

There are three main sections in the directive:

* 1. The general clause contains the general ban on unfair commercial practices. This provision will replace Member States’ existing, divergent general clauses and thus remove internal market barriers. The general clause will ensure that this new legislation withstands the test of time.
* 2. Two main categories of unfair commercial practices – “misleading” and “aggressive” practices – are described in more detail. In fact, the vast majority of practices which would be considered unfair would fall under these provisions. When applying the above provisions, practices are assessed in light of the effect they have, or are likely to have, on the average consumer.
* 3. Finally, the Black List contains the list of those practices which shall, in all circumstances, be regarded as unfair and thus banned – without applying the average consumer test.

3 The main elements of the Directive in more detail

The General Clause

Some practices may emerge in the future that do not fall under the criteria of “misleading” or “aggressive” although they are unfair. The general clause will ensure that this new legislation withstands the test of time.

Two defining criteria are used to identify an unfair commercial practice - a commercial practice is regarded as unfair – and prohibited – if it meets the following two, cumulative criteria:

* 1. The practice is contrary to the requirement of professional diligence Professional diligence is “the special skill and care which a trader may reasonably be expected to exercise, commensurate with honest market practices and/or general principle of good faith in the trader’s field of activity.”
* 2. The practice materially distorts or is likely to materially distort the average consumer’s economic behaviour The criterion “to materially distort the economic behaviour of consumers” means using a commercial practice to appreciably impair the consumer’s ability to make an informed decision, thereby causing the consumer to take a transactional decision that he would not have otherwise taken.

Misleading Practices (actions and omissions)

The Directive defines in detail what is considered a misleading action or a misleading omission. Actions are the activities traders carry out in the promotion and sales of their products.

A commercial practice is misleading if it either:

* Contains false information and is therefore untruthful, or
* In any way, including overall presentation, deceives or is likely to deceive the average consumer, even if the information is correct and
* Causes or is likely to cause him to take a transactional decision that he would have otherwise not taken.

The criteria are objective so that there is no need to prove that a consumer was actually misled. The possibility of deception alone can be considered misleading, if the other elements are present as well. There is no need to prove a financial loss.

Misleading Omissions

Omissions refer to the fact that consumers need information to make informed choices. A trader must provide material information that the average consumer needs. It is misleading to:

* Omit material information that the average consumer needs, according to the context, to take an informed transactional decision;
* Hide or provide material information in an unclear, unintelligible, ambiguous or untimely manner;
* Fail to identify the commercial intent of the commercial practice if not already apparent from the context.

When assessing practices for omissions, the following aspects are taken into consideration:

* What counts is the effect of the commercial practice in its entirety, including the presentation; Information must be displayed clearly: obscure presentation is tantamount to an omission to inform.

Aggressive Commercial Practices

Regulating aggressive commercial practices is new at EU level. A practice is considered aggressive if the average consumer’s freedom of choice or conduct is significantly impaired.

The Directive contains a list of criteria to help determine whether a commercial practice uses harassment, coercion, including physical force, or undue influence.

“Undue influence” means “exploiting a position of power in relation to the consumer so as to apply pressure, even without using or threatening to use physical force, in a way which significantly limits the consumer’s ability to make an informed decision.”

The Black List

Certain commercial practices across Europe are banned outright under the Directive. To ensure that traders, marketing professionals and customers are clear about what is prohibited, a Black List of unfair practices has been drawn up. The commercial practices on the Black List are unfair in all circumstances and no case-by-case assessment against other provisions of the Directive is required.

Which types of commercial practices does it cover?

What is included?

* Trust marks and codes
* Bait advertising
* Bait and switch
* Limited offers: Special offer, today only!
* Language of after-sales service: Marketing in English, after-sales services in Swedish
* Advertising products which cannot be legally sold
* Misleading impression of consumers’ rights: “Special for you”
* Advertorials: “Mixed messages”
* Security as marketing argument: Unduly playing on fear of security risks
* Decoy: “Reputable brand, or maybe not?”
* Pyramid schemes
* False claims regarding moving premises or cessation of business: “End of lease! All stock must go!”
* Facilitation of winning chances: How to win the lottery
* False claims about curative capacity: “Trickium 24 cures disease”
* Market information
* Prizes: “Congratulations! You have won a prize”
* Falsely creating the impression of free offers: “Free sunglasses”
* Products not ordered
* Professional trader disguised as consumer
* After sales services: “Europe wide guarantees”
* Pressure selling: “Yes, you can leave once the paperwork is done”
* Aggressive doorstep selling: “Yes, I will leave, once the paperwork is done”
* Persistent and unwanted solicitations: “With the third phone call maybe a contract will be agreed...”
* Insurance claims: No one picks up the phone
* Direct exhortations to children: “Go buy the book!”
* Inertia Selling
* Emotional pressure
* Prize Winning

See brochure below for details of blacklisted schemes and examples:

http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/cons_i...act/ucp_en.pdf

4. Protecting vulnerable consumers

The Directive provides for special protection to vulnerable consumers:

* (A) When a commercial practice is targeted at a specific group of consumers, then the impact of the practice will be assessed from the perspective of the average member of the group in question. For example, in the case of advertising to children, the average child of the relevant age group will be the benchmark.
* (B) Within the Directive, certain commercial practices are prohibited since they are considered unfair and are likely to affect especially vulnerable consumers in that case. Examples of such practices include:
* Claiming that products are able to facilitate winning in games of chance;
* Falsely claiming that a product is able to cure illnesses, dysfunction or malformation;
* Including in an advertisement a direct exhortation to children to buy advertised products or persuade their parents or other adults to buy advertised products to them (“pester power”).
* (C) In addition, there is a “safeguard clause” in the Directive to protect particularly vulnerable consumers: traders cannot evade the unfairness rules by specific practices that would only fool particularly vulnerable consumers even if even if those practices cannot be proven to target that group.

5. Other important issues

The scope of protection

http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/rights/index_en.htm

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...=0&language=EN

Wow, someone needs to pay you guys then.

Exactly.
It is not a common fact, product support forums are run by third parties and original manufacturer is not showing any interest to provide users with first-hand on-line support, operating internet forums like internettablettalk or other.

This is a job of product manager at Nokia to setup internet on-line forum, nominate administrator, nominate some staff members to be on-line and do the right job for customers, tablet users, providing on-line support, giving on-line answers to any product relating question , writing FAQ.

Standard procedure provided by other manufacturers of embedded systems, devices, products in our days.

Darius makes a good point and I agree with his assertion that Nokia needs to be more involved in the community. It's hard to not get the impression that Nokia isn't terribly interested in supporting N810 buyers.

It's one thing to not release patches and updates quickly - another all together to not even acknowledge that problems exist and provide an ETA.

I'm not looking for gov't intervention though I would be reluctant to recommend the purchase of Nokia products to friends and collegues (or obviously purchase another myself)

I think the real problem here is that you guys just aren't paying attention. The maemo guys are quite a bit more involved in the community than I've experience in the past from practically any other large commercial venture.

You know, I thanked you for that suggestion, but then I had horrible visions of a wiki gone wild... (you'd need to read a few key posts to get that. )