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#11
Hi Guys,

"... Basically the article is saying that Canola's theme engine works well enough to know when it's running in portrait mode or not and displays perfectly either way...
So there's nothing to be released other than xrandr.
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Yah, actually xrandr is on vivi's website and already on xomap, the thing missing for chinook is the kernel with the patch (if I'm not mistaken)

Terrencegf : if you look at the link you sent, it's Rodrigos (Vivi)'s patch compiled to the maemo (http://labs.vivi.eng.br/blog/?p=39) ... so is not only compiling, there was some work to be done, and it was done in xomap, by other team here in the company, requested by my team (Concepts). I have all the packages needed (need to flash the kernel) and a .deb with the port of xrandr... but... this of course can be used for those dying to test canola (which I don't suggest) because some of the screens are not usable but to play around the link fits quite well... just do as he says, and you can rotate via the applet canola doesn't need to be restarted, it rotates automaticaly.


the question was more about : do people really want this (I know some people reallly want, but I will only be able to get more workforce to finish this work if a lot of users are instered).

BUT @amigokin: this was not made to be portrait. It was designed to work perfectly in landscape and also there's work to be done on the 3-album view screen, the player screen (for video, photo and music) and small tweaks around. also more items on the screen makes it slower, so a theme with less transparency is also needed. Last, but not less important is also : You should be able to do this inside canola, and video should be able to rotate back to play correctly, as video on this orientation sucks hard

The thing is, some of the screens (players - thumbnails) were made to optimize the use on landscape, while others were made to be orientation independent , and we are happy that no we can see it

Again, it's more about you guys, and as "user centered" advocates, it's your feedback the guides most of the decisions (sometimes not ))) )

BR
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#12
So, to make clear (too much text on the other )

The patch (xomap) is public, and was compiled with easy for maemo here : http://sse2.net/rotate/

You can install right now with his instructions, but bare in mind, that we didn't work at all in the screens that really need work (playback looks awful, video doesnt work, and pictures are without the side pictures)

also: make sure you keep your display (on) if it goes out, you will get a blue screen, that's why you don't have a patch compiled for maemo from us yet, we are trying to kill this bug.

BR

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I really loved the portrait mode. Could see myself using it in that fashion one handed often.

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There is something nice about being able to see more of the folder lists in portrait mode. In my photos folder I must have 20-30 different folders, portrait enables more folders to be viewed per page. Nice option
 
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Crabolsky: yeah this is the biggest "profit" from this orientation : bigger list, "less" scrolling. the problem we reached was "performance" more text moving on the screen : painful :/
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Portrait mode.... wow! This is amazing. Changing resolution via the applet is really fast, too. I've wanted to do this since I got an N800... ah, portrait mode web browsing, too, nice.

I'm really, really impressed. This is wonderful.
 
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#17
Portrait mode looks amazing, please, please, please release it.
 
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Wow. I really wish I knew more about linux. I just dont understand how to flash a kernel lol
 
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I am with the others in stating that this would be a solid thing to release, but it would seem that Canola would need not just a point releases for elements, but also for the associated themes so that it not just works, but works effectively. If this can be done, and its not a crink in the rest of the development timeline, I'd say keep rolling with it; but if its something that can wait until Canola 2.1/2.5, then wait and make it perfect.

The other side of this seems that Chinook itself might just be better patched for portrait support. I'd make the request that portrait be something added to the kernal offically, and then the resulting fixes done to apps there so that it too can be usable.

Oh how having a motion sensor would make this even sweeter.
 
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@ARJ : yeah, for sure a motion sensor would be the king. For now, we don have plans too much because of the "need" to a normal user to flash kernel etc. It's just too much, but the point is what I said : if I can rise enough interest, I can get someone to work on this
also, I don't know how things would be done in hildon (but honestly I wouldn't wait) so my plans were to make you able to rotate inside canola, and when you live canola, it becomes again the landcaspe mode in hildon apps.


But the focus now is really on the current releases. We were just doing our "experimental" tests with Vivi's patches
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