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2008-07-03
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I upgraded a couple of days ago. Have had no success reinstalling any applications (from restore function). All downloads failed. Finally decided to re-flash while skipping restore, then manually reinstalled all applications. Now everything works. Cheers!
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2008-07-03
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Originally Posted by ch8xy
Did you bother to try and solve the problem? The solution is literally plastered all over the web.
I upgraded a couple of days ago. Have had no success reinstalling any applications (from restore function). All downloads failed. Finally decided to re-flash while skipping restore, then manually reinstalled all applications. Now everything works. Cheers!
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2008-07-03
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
For those of us who haven't been following every thread in every ITT forum for the last month would you mind saying what the solution is?
Did you bother to try and solve the problem? The solution is literally plastered all over the web.
I just dropped in to see what's going on lately and I haven't even seen a thread that explains why I would or wouldn't want to upgrade to Diablo.
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2008-07-03
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The solution is to add chinook to the maemo extras repo under distribution (I think that's the category).
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2008-07-03
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
or less messily, in terms of future updates, add a copy of the extras repo info with that little change. that way one do not have to wonder why some update people are talking about do not show up at their end...
The solution is to add chinook to the maemo extras repo under distribution (I think that's the category).
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2008-07-04
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I'm not going to lie, I'm a little surprised myself that it was released so early, after a few weeks of using the pre-release versions, I didn't think it was anywhere near prime-time.
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2008-07-04
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@ Lee's Summit, MO, USA
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I find it odd that Nokia released Diablo with so many open and high-priority bugs still outstanding. I also find it strange that they released it the same day that Nokia announced the creation of the Symbian Foundation. It is questionable their reason for doing this. I'd really like to know really why it was literally rushed out the door with no supporting applications and still a lot of outstanding bugs that are still outstanding. The N810 is a great device, but Diablo is really getting on my nerves. It won't tether to my phone anymore, the application manager still randomly crashes, the OS freezes from time to time, and other small things seem to be plaguing this OS. Maybe Maemo should be rolled into developing a Mobile Ubuntu and the propreitary software components be sourced so we don't have to work around bugs (like the craptastic GPS capability of the device) and the WLAN/Bluetooth drivers. Also, is Nokia is so gung-hoe the device, why not pay for a OGL ES license? The hardware is there, but Nokia is unwilling to pay or at the very least implement it.
C'mon guys, pull your heads out of your asses and give the consumer what they want.
C'mon guys, pull your heads out of your asses and give the consumer what they want.
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2008-07-04
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By the way, I'm a Sprint Customer and have a lot of personal contacts with Sprint's product development. I don't want to cause a headache for you, but if you keep failing to deliver on these features or try to pass up devices on features they already support, I'll have no choice to raise issue. I've already made HTC's life a little harder for failing to deliver advertised features on the Touch, don't make me do the same for Nokia.
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2008-07-04
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Originally Posted by Mutiny32
"High-priority" is pretty meaningless in the current bugzilla, as there isn't really a good triaging process for priority in place. Anything specific in mind?
I find it odd that Nokia released Diablo with so many open and high-priority bugs still outstanding.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
Personally, I rather doubt a simple maintenance release had anything to do with any Symbian announcements. :\
I also find it strange that they released it the same day that Nokia announced the creation of the Symbian Foundation. It is questionable their reason for doing this.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
"No supporting applications"? What does this mean? Diablo is almost entirely backwards compatible with Chinook stuff, so I don't see the issue. Yeah, Diablo Extras could've used a couple weeks notice to allow time for people to get their stuff through the autobuilder, but if you want perfectly smooth upgrades, you're generally better off waiting a month or two before installing them. This applies to any platform (just look at what happens with some Apple point releases).
I'd really like to know really why it was literally rushed out the door with no supporting applications and still a lot of outstanding bugs that are still outstanding.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
It tethers fine for me, here and Application manager is rock-solid compared to the Chinook version. I haven't seen a crash yet.
The N810 is a great device, but Diablo is really getting on my nerves. It won't tether to my phone anymore, the application manager still randomly crashes, the OS freezes from time to time, and other small things seem to be plaguing this OS.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
Huh? Ubuntu Mobile is targeted at MIDs, which are x86 and generally more powerful (and more power hungry) than our ARMs. It doesn't make a lick of sense to merge the two.
Maybe Maemo should be rolled into developing a Mobile Ubuntu and the propreitary software components be sourced so we don't have to work around bugs (like the craptastic GPS capability of the device) and the WLAN/Bluetooth drivers.
Have you played with agps-ui? It seems to greatly improve GPS performance for a lot of people.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
Nokia has looked into it. The drivers suck (i.e., crash frequently), and the performance isn't great is the word I heard from LinuxTag. Now, I don't know about you, but releasing drivers that suck *** and don't work right to consumers isn't something I think consumers want. But, hey, that's just my opinion.
Also, is Nokia is so gung-hoe the device, why not pay for a OGL ES license? The hardware is there, but Nokia is unwilling to pay or at the very least implement it.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
What the "consumer" wants is coming with step 5. 'course, I might consider myself a consumer, and I quite like what I have in my hands right now. So maybe that should read "give me what I want or I'll issue ultimatums!", hm?
C'mon guys, pull your heads out of your asses and give the consumer what they want.
Originally Posted by Mutiny32
Note, Nokia isn't here. You're just talking to a bunch of enthusiasts, and we (well, me, anyway) don't really care about your ultimatums. Try contacting Nokia directly if you're really that bothered by it.
By the way, I'm a Sprint Customer and have a lot of personal contacts with Sprint's product development. I don't want to cause a headache for you, but if you keep failing to deliver on these features or try to pass up devices on features they already support, I'll have no choice to raise issue. I've already made HTC's life a little harder for failing to deliver advertised features on the Touch, don't make me do the same for Nokia.
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2008-07-04
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People will always have to complain.
Every device out there will always have a dark side.
It's impossible to make a device that pleases everyone.
The only devices I ever read positive comments all over the web, are always the ones that aren't shipped yet.
When the device ships, it's a matter of minutes before people start complaining that the device doesn't do what they wanted from it.
The problem is:
a) they didn't even know what they wanted from the device they got
b) they didn't read the specs of the device
c) even if they did, they were reading what they wanted to read, not what was actually written.
I personally think it's the same for the Nokia tablets.
For me, as a customer and developer, it's the most amazing device out there.
It allows me to actually develop on it, I can talk with the people behind it (and not only the developers), it gives me enough openness (and still they're improving it) and bla bla bla...
What the heck, be happy with it and be constructive, for a time, on the first device you can actually be constructive about.
The "big companies playing evil" is now a cliché. Forget about it.
Or at least think about Nokia just as a logo on the device, because who's actually behind the tablet is the Maemo team.
And they're for sure not evil at all (even tho they have just released the diablo).
Every device out there will always have a dark side.
It's impossible to make a device that pleases everyone.
The only devices I ever read positive comments all over the web, are always the ones that aren't shipped yet.
When the device ships, it's a matter of minutes before people start complaining that the device doesn't do what they wanted from it.
The problem is:
a) they didn't even know what they wanted from the device they got
b) they didn't read the specs of the device
c) even if they did, they were reading what they wanted to read, not what was actually written.
I personally think it's the same for the Nokia tablets.
For me, as a customer and developer, it's the most amazing device out there.
It allows me to actually develop on it, I can talk with the people behind it (and not only the developers), it gives me enough openness (and still they're improving it) and bla bla bla...
What the heck, be happy with it and be constructive, for a time, on the first device you can actually be constructive about.
The "big companies playing evil" is now a cliché. Forget about it.
Or at least think about Nokia just as a logo on the device, because who's actually behind the tablet is the Maemo team.
And they're for sure not evil at all (even tho they have just released the diablo).
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