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2008-07-22
, 13:31
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#12
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ok, i got an idea.
we know that beagleboard can run maemo, right?
grab one 15" touchscreen.
attach a beagleboard and battery on the back.
hook it all up and boot maemo.
presto
we know that beagleboard can run maemo, right?
grab one 15" touchscreen.
attach a beagleboard and battery on the back.
hook it all up and boot maemo.
presto
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2008-07-22
, 13:47
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@ Helsinki, Finland
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#13
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
The difference is into getting latest HW (and i'm not talking only about the processor) at lower prices. Including the manufacturing process. Pandora uses the 35xx which has larger footprint. Small differences, but in the end what makes up for few extra millimeters here and there.
It seems to me that building an el cheapo subtablet isn't exactly rocket science (anymore). If the people who are now developing the Pandora had left out the keypad, they'd have made one in basically under two years from idea to realisation, without any big corporation and without containers full of money.
Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
I think the 5 steps vision has not been a secret for some time, you are just too impatient :-)
The main problem for a tablet, and especially a subtablet, is the user interface first and useful applications second. This is where Nokia's tablets really suck: The user interface was designed without any vision or "grand plan" and the applications are basically retaylored Linux desktop applications. The only people who are content with these tablets are apparently either Linux sysadmins who like to have a portable terminal and people who are only interested in looking at content, not creating it.
I think we are starting only now -maybe- to have available HW that is somehow close to what 770 would have been if we had had the chance to really implement it according to our wishes.
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2008-07-22
, 18:29
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Originally Posted by igor
You don't need the latest hardware for good ui and useful applications. In some respects for example the old Apple Newtons are still superior as Sean Luke has argued here and here. I think it would be very interesting if they manage to pull this off without any 5 year plan with 'steps'.
I think the 5 steps vision has not been a secret for some time, you are just too impatient :-)
I think we are starting only now -maybe- to have available HW that is somehow close to what 770 would have been if we had had the chance to really implement it according to our wishes.
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2008-07-22
, 19:00
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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Originally Posted by iamthewalrus
You beat me to it. Which of the five steps is the one called: "Develop temporary crappy UI and do not include useful applications"?
You don't need the latest hardware for good ui and useful applications. In some respects for example the old Apple Newtons are still superior as Sean Luke has argued here and here. I think it would be very interesting if they manage to pull this off without any 5 year plan with 'steps'.
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Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
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2008-07-22
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Originally Posted by igor
I really don't have much of a beef with the hardware, even that of the 770. Save the silly LCD throughput feckup, the Itablets have very nice hardware indeed. It's the rest that suxx.
I think we are starting only now -maybe- to have available HW that is somehow close to what 770 would have been if we had had the chance to really implement it according to our wishes.
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Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
Watch out Nokia, Pandora's box has opened (sorta)...
I do love explaining cryptic sigs, but for the impatient: http://www.openpandora.org/
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2008-07-22
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Here if I disagree with you is about the HW, it suxx as well, at least from the standpoint of what we would really like to deliver.
I really don't have much of a beef with the hardware, even that of the 770. Save the silly LCD throughput feckup, the Itablets have very nice hardware indeed. It's the rest that suxx.
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2008-07-22
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
The UI is what it is, but you should rather ask the relevant question: which of the steps is "Develop a clean UI which goes beyond the one inherited almost for free from the desktop"?
You beat me to it. Which of the five steps is the one called: "Develop temporary crappy UI and do not include useful applications"?
Not that you are going to get an answer from me to such question, but at least you would have asked the right thing.
About the useful application, it was stated that part of the experiment with making the tablets was also to see how much the community would have been able to provide for itself.
On that side we have seen quite good examples.
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2008-07-22
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@ Boone, IA
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Karel,
OTOH, I see applications around me that might become killer apps for these subtablets. Take e.g. EverNote, a note-taking, information collecting application that outperforms Microsoft's OneNote in all aspects. A tablet version of such an app could -- nay: Is! -- immensely useful, provided that tablet has an efficient text entry system (and for a tablet that means HWR). It is flexible enough that most people won't even need a dedicated PIM and with the new connected features it has entered the "Cloud Era" as well.
Have you looked at Notecase?
I've found that except for the "cloud" it performs all of the tasks my Palm Memos / Outlook Notes handled.
I currently run it off my N800 and off my desktop(pointing to the file on the SD Card in the N800)
Evernote on the N8x0 would be cool however....
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Favorite Apps: CommunitySSU,DiabloTurbo, Flipclock, Keepnote, Dialcentral,
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Nook Color
CM7 Nightly
N800 (retired...soon to eBay)
Favorite Apps: CommunitySSU,DiabloTurbo, Flipclock, Keepnote, Dialcentral,
Gizmo5 ,MediaBox/pyFMradio, Telescope,Diablo5 theme, Tear, Personal Menu/Launcher, OMWeather,Blubbels, Advanced Power/Backlight...now to play with Garnet6...
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2008-07-22
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#20
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is there not a app caalled maemopad+ that does tree based notes?
I gotta say that this is a genius marketing move by Arrington.
Making it an open source hardware creates buzz for the product. There will probably be follow up articles, informal polls, etc...basically generating more interesting content for his websites.
If this inexpensive internet tablet that caters to the larger market does succeed, it means more people going online, which circles back to more hits for TechCrunch.
Whether or not the product succeeds does not really matter. Arrington already wins.
I'm eager to see how this experiment turns out.