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Originally Posted by CleverJake View Post
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are you implying that the ipod will stop evolving?
taht just seems silly to me
look at where it started at
its not a growing technology, it is the bleeding edge there of (atelast of pmps)
I mean, there are other platforms with larger screens, more features and so forth, but none with half of the marketing of the ipod

one point jobs made that I found very interesting, and in my opinion sort of nullifies your tero argument, over 90% of the cars in teh united states can now interface directly with the ipod
manufacturers are copying the ipod, not the n800, not the irivier or anythign else
it is the top dog, and it is what pushes technology forward, as far as mass acceptance

maemo will grow andI love the commuity, but short of them stopping the manufacturing of the touch, it will sell, and sell alot no matter what
if it gets too weird, they will stop that generation and come up with a new weirder one
i do not know what steve jobs plans to do with the ipod touch...who knows he may make it into the best gaming platform around beating the cr@p out of nintendo and alike or he may kill it like the newton

all i am saying is that once mighty and unbeatable 'top dog' platforms have died because they did not evolve

a ipod touch is not a IT
once again an ipod touch is not a IT

which will survive? only time will tell
 
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It'll never beat Nintendo and Sony. The iPod touch will actually need buttons for that. Not to mention Nintendo has already played around with the idea of tilt games (Kirby tilt and Tumble I think) for the original Gameboy. The problem with them is once you tilt to a certain degree, it begins to affect how much of the screen you can see.

Already companies have problem with tilt controls for turning (like for FPS). Though that problem can be fixed (I believe companies are already working on a solution for it). (right now it's to fast so when you tilt the screen your view literally flys across making it hard to aim properly).

It will be a device that you can play games on though. Just not enough to rival Nintendo or Sony (or maybe even not enough to threaten them). I see gaming on the iPod touch more like games people have on their cell phones (or the games we have on the tablet). At most it might chip a little out of Nintendo's "casual" market.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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the way i see it, the touch will keep staying the little brother of the iphone, for fear of undermining sales of the latter.

and it does not help that i suspect apple have the touch in the works before they started considering making a phone, and bolted on a gsm radio to the existing touch prototype.
 
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Originally Posted by CleverJake View Post
@prk60091

are you implying that the ipod will stop evolving?
taht just seems silly to me
look at where it started at
its not a growing technology, it is the bleeding edge there of (atelast of pmps)
A pmp without a2dp is pretty much not cutting edge. And add to it absencse of fm radio, full bluetooth and no expandable memory...... may be your definition of bleeding edge is a little different ....
 

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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
A pmp without a2dp is pretty much not cutting edge. And add to it absencse of fm radio, full bluetooth and no expandable memory...... may be your definition of bleeding edge is a little different ....
Yeah, not having those features has been such a drag on iPod sales and the development of a robust developer community.

People want solutions, just because we can do amazing things on the Nokia's doesn't mean that I would recommend them to anyone.
 
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
I just avoid it all and buy stuff that isn't limited to just the iPod. (for example if a stereo has a line in option). Which is why when I'm buying a car, it won't matter if it has an iPod interface (heck I might negotiate not to have it included to lower the price). What I want is an input for audio.
The iPod interface isn't just line out though... it's a control interface and charging as well. You can likely control your tunes with the buttons on the steering wheel. The consistent docking interface is a real masterstroke, IMHO. They learned from Palm's massive mistakes.

My point is, don't think you'll get the same experience with a bunch of cables and a 12v lighter plug.
 
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A bunch of cables? No, that'd be more like A2DP, AVRCP, and a power jack. Of course, that would involve open standards, and make the iPod-compatible cars also be compatible with the competition. The way Apple's doing it leaves customers with an inferior product, but as long as their marketing keeps people buying it, they're better off that way.
 
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any mediaphile will probably tell you that ad2p is inferior to a wired connection anyways.

yes, the connector is indeed a masterstroke. even more so that it seems to cost nothing to get a license to use it as long as they dont try so on a rival product to the ipod.

also, we humans seem more adept at putting plug a into socket b, then do the mental gymnastics that it takes to pair up two devices over bluetooth. just watch the number of threads here on the forum where people get the pin for the bluetooth pairing mixed up with the pin to lock the tablet and so on.

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Originally Posted by tso View Post
any mediaphile will probably tell you that ad2p is inferior to a wired connection anyways.
True enough; but most people aren't audiophiles, and (I think) would go for the ease of tossing the iPod in and hitting a connect button. I'd do this, if
I had reliable A2DP support and an A2DP-cassette adapter.

Apple isn't marketing to audiophiles, as evidenced by the speaker. (AFAIK, the Karma or maybe that Vibez thing with improved karma firmware is still audiophile king.)
 
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nope, most people are not, but given the chance they want to appear as if they are.

sad to say, these days appearance counts as much as actually knowhow.

if you dress right and talk right, you can get in and out of places, and get things done that you have no real clue about...

i would say that for each artist using a apple device to make art, there are 5-10 wannabes that just hang around all day with a apple device to make it look like they are artists.

but then maybe its the same for the tablets? that for each geek that actually (ab)use it, there are 5-10 people that own one so that they can appear knowledgeable in the ways of computers?
 
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