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#11
Originally Posted by Odin
Hmmm....

1) No camera--who cares.
2) 30 GB Hard Drive, good grief, what do you do on this thing?
3) Root crippled? Puh-leez, the 770 is only root crippled for those without the skill to flash it out (or in, depending how you look at it).
3) Shorter battery life. Frankly, I can't imagine anything shorter than that of the 770.
4) Bigger and heavier--ok guys, mov'in in the wrong direction here.

So, I repeat...$699, OUCH!
I figured you were asking why it was more expensive than the 770, so I gave a couple of reasons why. You don't have to like them, or even see a need for them, but they are still valid reasons why the Pepper is more expensive than the 770.

As for the root-crippling: I admit that I am still 2005-biased. WHat can I say?
 
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#12
With the 2006 OS you don't even need to flash anything to get root.
Just install a tiny package from the app manager and bingo...
 
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#13
I don't think we can compare them,
Nokia is Internet tablet device, as it was said.
Peppere Pad is Media device with Internet option,
can play movie, audio, read books, it's why it has harddrive
and bigger screen.
I have both and do with them what i discribe...
 
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#14
Honestly I thought the original post was a bit of a joke. The Pepper Pad is in a bit of a black hole. The price is close to a cheap UMPC and the same as a basic small laptop like the Sentia m3200. You double the weight with the Sentia, but I think most people would choose to do that. It's size and price puts it nowhere near the 770 IMHO. I'd rather get 2 770's.
 
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#15
I was really into the Pepper Pad when it first came out, but being a Nokia addict I got the 770. But I think I'd like to have a Pepper Pad just for the heck of it. Just another toy to play with you know.
 
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#16
Originally Posted by rr0123
Honestly I thought the original post was a bit of a joke. The Pepper Pad is in a bit of a black hole. The price is close to a cheap UMPC and the same as a basic small laptop like the Sentia m3200. You double the weight with the Sentia, but I think most people would choose to do that. It's size and price puts it nowhere near the 770 IMHO. I'd rather get 2 770's.
I wouldn't compare it to a Umpc. imo a laptop is qkite different than these touch screen pads. A umpc has full windows. the pepper pad doesn't and was marketed as an internet pad at first if i'm not mistaken.pepper and 770 both run linx. i would nevr want to deal with norton etc on a umpc. pricewise its 20 closer to the umpc than the 770. thanks for being mature and polite in your post.
 
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#17
The Pepper Pad 3 is now in stock at amazon.com. I bought a white one, but the black is apparently more popular. I would not characterize this as a direct competitor to the 770, although both can be described as an Internet Tablet. It is about 2x as wide and high as the 770 (significantly wider than I expected), with the screen about 1.6x as wide and high (800x480). I find I use the PP3 on the arm of an armchair (it has built in stand), and the 770 for portability around the house and on travel.

A major advantage of the PP3 is that its Geode LX800 processor is i836 compatible, and it runs a nearly standard version of Fedora Core 4. This means that many FC4 GTK+ rpms can be used "as is", and you can do development directly on the PP3. On the other hand, there is currently no easy way to add 3rd party applications to the primary application screen.

FBReader is available, and is an example of standard FC4 rpms working without change. A very basic Mobipocket reader is bundled with the machine, so reading encripted e-books is possible. However, I still use the 770 as my primary e-book reader.

The physically larger screen, the built-in keyboard, and the FireFox web browser make it a better web device than the 770, if the loss of portability is acceptable. Price is high relative to low-end laptops, but not to UMPCs.
 
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#18
Probably naive question, but sine you seem to have one...

Is it even thinkable to use (use, not run :-) OpenOffice (at least the writer part) on the Peeper Pad (or the Kohjinsha SA1F00A, which uses the same CPU) ?
 
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#19
There was a disscusion of this on the Pepper Pad forums yesterday.
http://www.pepper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426

It appears that the standard OO rpms work, but how well OO interacts with a small screen (and how fast it is) are presumably your main concerns. You could try asking on the above thread. The SA1 appears to come with standard Windows XP, and I would worry a bit about using XP at 800x480.
 
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#20
Thanks for the pointer, I'll look it up. I believe OO is configurable enough to be usable at that resolution, XP or not. Reasonable speed in day-to-day operation (launch, open file, edit, save file...) is what separates an interesting hack (ie OO on a Zaurus) from a useful tool (ie a laptop replacement with compromises) : if it works, OK, is that 3 seconds, 30 seconds, or 3 minutes ? :-)
 
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