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2009-04-22
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Much simpler solution, use a laptop, install x11vnc on the N8x0, run a VNC client fullscreen on the laptop and you'll see the N8x0 display enlarged on your laptop screen. Zero dollars and no hassle with hardware modding !
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2009-04-22
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Well, yes, but I was replying to this:
To an extent, but then you're stuck waiting for it to boot up or wake from sleep when you get in your car. The Beagle is the sort of thing you could attach a small battery to and expect to stay alive while the vehicle is turned off. That way it comes instantly to life when you turn on your car and power up the LCD.
Originally Posted by attila77
A carputer should be already on when you are in the car, so no need to wake up to reply to sip/skype calls (provided that you have internet connectivity), battery life is not an issue and pocketability even less so.
For me the aversion comes from the fact it won't wake itself up to receive a SIP/Skype call, an IM or email message (basically battery life), and the pocketability factor.
You're right that a netbook is not instant-on, but my acer aspire one takes less than 10 seconds to come up from suspend to ram, and you could hack something to turn it on when, e.g., opening the door, so you won't really have to wait even those 10 seconds.
OTOH, since I don't spend that much time in the car, I don't find a carputer appealing. I just use the n800 for navigation when I need it and the screen size doesn't bother me (though visibility during the day is an issue, but I doubt a netbook lcd would be any better)
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2009-04-23
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Well I think the whole carputer discussion is drifting a bit here, but since we're already going down that road I'll just throw in my two cents by saying that I agree with luca in that I have the embedded box in my Jeep rigged up so that when I open the driver door it powers on and starts booting; with a 10-15 second full boot time the thing is up and running within a few seconds of the engine cranking over and starting. My biggest problem with an "always on/standby" solution is that you are, literally, always consuming power to some degree. Yes you can put extra batteries and things in, but that's not the point. The point is you are tying yourself to a depleatable power source that adds an extra layer of effort without real significant gains. If you want to have your car puter running while you're not in the car all the time, great, but how many things does your car need to be doing without being turned on and you inside of it?... (yea yea I know there are lots but really, be a little practical here!)
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2009-04-26
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I don't get the point of a carputer. I'd primarily (probably only) use it for music and navigation. For music I have an mp3 player (ok, an iPod I got for free...(yes. it runs rockbox)) hooked into my radio with a custom integration system I designed.
So that solvs the music half of a carputer. And the navigation part is a moot point, sort of. For the vast most part of where I drive I know where I am. Else, I stick the n810 in it's mount, plug into power and audio, and I'm all set.
Now I am thinking about using a carputer with digital gauges to replace my gauge cluster (speedo, temp, and gas gauge don't work...) so that could be a good use of a carputer...
So that solvs the music half of a carputer. And the navigation part is a moot point, sort of. For the vast most part of where I drive I know where I am. Else, I stick the n810 in it's mount, plug into power and audio, and I'm all set.
Now I am thinking about using a carputer with digital gauges to replace my gauge cluster (speedo, temp, and gas gauge don't work...) so that could be a good use of a carputer...
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2009-04-27
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A car puter is definitely not one of those needed for everyone things. I mean these days, definitely you have an Ipod that takes care of your music, you have a navigation device if you want one, and there's not really a lot else mainstream... the tablets can do a pretty good job of filling most of those roles anyways. Mine's a little more out there just because I'm a bit more of an out there kind of guy... so yea, I use mine for MP3 playback with an FM transmitter... you can do that with an IPod definitely, but does your ipod stop the music when you shut the car off, and start it again at the same point when you start up again? Does it wirelessly associate with your house and sync the playlist with the stereo so that when you walk in the music carries on from where you left off in your vehicle, and vice versa? Little things like that which don't really justify it, but at the same time make it kind of fun to have and play with...
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2009-04-27
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I don't use the n810 for music primarily because I have my iPod to do that. And it has 30GB as opposed to the storage space available for an n810.
But yes, my iPod starts and stops with the car. And is cabled directly to my radio.
Hence the IPOD INTEGRATION part of when I said custom ipod integration
But yes, my iPod starts and stops with the car. And is cabled directly to my radio.
Hence the IPOD INTEGRATION part of when I said custom ipod integration
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2009-04-27
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Nice nice, see so as soon as you get into "custom integration" you're really just taking steps to turn your IPod into a kind of carputer... the whole point is to have some kind of intelligent device that you install into your vehicle and integrate in some way; how "intergrated" and "capable" that intelligent device is boils down to what you want out of it. Things like ODB-II integration for fuel tracking/GPS. Another one for me is I have a mic connected to an input so that the volume of the music will increase to compensate for the level of wind noise as I'm driving along (esp. important for me because there's a fair amount of noise difference in my Jeep between city speeds and highway speeds, and same again depending on whether the roof is up or not); if your car already has that then cool no reason for such... but for the things that you don't have, the car puter is kind of the "universal I wish I could do x... oh wait I can!" solution. Again in my case it's a great feature because it adjusts based on actual noise rather than just speed of the vehicle... does that justify a car puter? heck no... but it's just like the NITs in general.. if you've already got a super capable device, why not utilize it to solve many problems instead of just one...
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2009-04-27
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Originally Posted by jolouis
I have wanted to build a system to change the volume depending on noise in the car for a while. My car is old and falling apart, so is a bit loud...
Nice nice, see so as soon as you get into "custom integration" you're really just taking steps to turn your IPod into a kind of carputer... the whole point is to have some kind of intelligent device that you install into your vehicle and integrate in some way; how "intergrated" and "capable" that intelligent device is boils down to what you want out of it. Things like ODB-II integration for fuel tracking/GPS. Another one for me is I have a mic connected to an input so that the volume of the music will increase to compensate for the level of wind noise as I'm driving along (esp. important for me because there's a fair amount of noise difference in my Jeep between city speeds and highway speeds, and same again depending on whether the roof is up or not); if your car already has that then cool no reason for such... but for the things that you don't have, the car puter is kind of the "universal I wish I could do x... oh wait I can!" solution. Again in my case it's a great feature because it adjusts based on actual noise rather than just speed of the vehicle... does that justify a car puter? heck no... but it's just like the NITs in general.. if you've already got a super capable device, why not utilize it to solve many problems instead of just one...
But you don't even need software for that. It could be done with a fairly simple transistorized circuit.
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2009-04-28
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Out of curiosity do you know of said transistorized circuit? I'm curious to see what it looks like and if I could use it for some other purposes... (one of the my hardware projects that's been sitting in the back of my head for a while is basically an audio switch; when there's audio being generated by a sound card/device/etc, the switch triggers and turns the amp on... when there's no sound for a given amount of time, switch releases and turns the amp back off. Of course it can't have any detrimental effect on the audio... that's the trick...)
Ryan Abel