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2009-08-08 , 10:30
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According to the EULA they are, as is any manufacturer that supplies an OEM version of windows.
Ah, sorry, I guess it shows it has been 10+ years since my last windows machine In that case, I'd expect a quote from the N810 EULA that says the same thing with regard to Skype

I thought the Skype port was solicited via Nokia?
It doesn't matter. It's a 'mobile skype' port. It doesn't do video, not on the PSP, not on WinMo, not on iPhone, not on any other platform. The latest and greatest improvent in skype mobile (AFAIK the only feature the NIT port is missing) is that you can send FILES. Revolutionary (almost in an Apple kind of way ). And yes, Skype is that crappy.
 

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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Ah, sorry, I guess it shows it has been 10+ years since my last windows machine
I just checked the manual of windows 3.11 (a real, physical one, on paper!) and it has the same provision. It's 17 years old.
 
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Hm, interesting (mine was a Win98, but then it seems I was not reading carefully enough ). But... why does then every error in Windows want to get reported to Microsoft and not the REAL responsible party?
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I thought the Skype port was solicited via Nokia?
It really doesn't matter. It's Skype's responsibility to get video working if they desire.

Something that seems to get lost in this sort of discussion is the important distinction between proximate responsibility and ultimate responsibility. Nokia has a proximate responsibility to stress to Skype how desirable a feature like video is; Skype has the ultimate repsonsibility to make it happen.
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Was it just a matter of supply vs demand? Skype didn't want to spend more resource to cater to the limited userbase...
 
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^ that's as good an answer as any.
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It really doesn't matter. It's Skype's responsibility to get video working if they desire.
Nokia should have made it clear that it's important. But I'm willing to bet the userbase was far too small, so anything financial wouldn't be worthwhile.

Something that seems to get lost in this sort of discussion is the important distinction between proximate responsibility and ultimate responsibility. Nokia has a proximate responsibility to stress to Skype how desirable a feature like video is; Skype has the ultimate repsonsibility to make it happen.
Then it starts with Nokia, right? If it's not important to Nokia, then the message was never sent.
 
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Did anybody consider that only Skype mobile (the one without video) is available for non-x86 platforms ? So it's not exactly a Nokia issue, Skype doesn't do video on ARM at all, just x86. Also, considering how much birthpain it coused to (almost) have a 64bit version, it looks as if it's pretty gritty on the inside (hardcoded, 32bit x86 asm stuff or binary blobs likely)
 

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from what i recall, video on skype is highly cpu and latency sensitive, so there could be a codec reason for why it has never shown up outside of X86...

funny enough btw, their codec supplier is on2, the very same on2 that google have announced a intention to buy recently...
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