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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by Jaffa
How is there not a need for some sort of DRM or lockdown on the phone in your scenario? If you want to get the important developers (EA for example) over to Maemo, they won't even start to look at your platform unless those kinds of protections are in there. (Believe me, I've tried.) Working in games and iPhone development, I hear so many people telling me that 80-90% of people using their apps have pirated them and they've only made back $20k of the $300,000 they put into developing that game.
I don't think there's any need for a) Maemo to have DRM or proprietary apps to manage it or b) anything to be forced on people. But a glut of 99 cent fart apps shows that there are a lot of developers for the iPhone - and even if only 1% of them produce something good or useful to someone, that's still a lof of good apps.
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Yeah an official requested application list and links/screenshots to the application is a very good idea. Of course we had such lists in the forum previously... but i hope we have something concrete in the wiki which can be a permanent page for requested applications.
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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Is it possible to pirate the applications from app store without jailbreaking?
How is there not a need for some sort of DRM or lockdown on the phone in your scenario? If you want to get the important developers (EA for example) over to Maemo, they won't even start to look at your platform unless those kinds of protections are in there. (Believe me, I've tried.) Working in games and iPhone development, I hear so many people telling me that 80-90% of people using their apps have pirated them and they've only made back $20k of the $300,000 they put into developing that game.
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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by sachin007
Not to my knowledge but the fact of the matter is that there are so many people with jailbroken phones, and it's so easy to do with many teams of people banging away at each new firmware that jailbreaking the phone isn't really a barrier anymore.
Is it possible to pirate the applications from app store without jailbreaking?
Same issue the PSP has, really, except it's so much further down the timeline than the iPhone is at this point.
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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by sachin007
There were lists of desired applications, being most of the times the reference platform the Linux desktop, or desktops in general. Was it there a list pointing to mobile apps available in other platforms?
Yeah an official requested application list and links/screenshots to the application is a very good idea. Of course we had such lists in the forum previously... but i hope we have something concrete in the wiki which can be a permanent page for requested applications.
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Last I read, 'only' 15-20% of all iPhone\Touch are jailbroken... and about half of those use pirated apps on them. That is approx 4 million devices.
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2009-08-14
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Originally Posted by ysss
Yes, that's absolutely true and that "only 15-20% / 2" is already enough to massively hurt developers on the app store to the point of them closing up shop - something I'm very personally worried about at this very moment.
Last I read, 'only' 15-20% of all iPhone\Touch are jailbroken... and about half of those use pirated apps on them. That is approx 4 million devices.
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2009-08-14
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what about, in order to to keep the applications free and open, developers are allowed to have an advertising banner within it. That way the developers get paid through advertising and don't mind if the app gets passed around for free. Then the developers are getting their money and happy, and we are getting more apps for free.
We(when I say "we", i mean Nokia and Maemo) still need to get the popularity of maemo up so that advertisers feel that enough people see their adds to invest. I don't mind dealing with a few adds for a free app or service.
We(when I say "we", i mean Nokia and Maemo) still need to get the popularity of maemo up so that advertisers feel that enough people see their adds to invest. I don't mind dealing with a few adds for a free app or service.
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2009-08-14
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@icbolsh: my guess is, before the app is passed around, there would be attempt to disable\remove the ad mechanism if there isn't a protection scheme in place.
From this point of view, a useful question is: what applications do you find interesting in other mobile platforms and you would like to see someone bringing to Maemo?
This is also a way to pass through the 'thousands of apps' noise barrier and see what is really cool but missing for Maemo users.
Looking athe list of such apps/features it is also easier to see whether such apps could fit in the known open source development model or if micropayments are required, or if it's about corporate marketing, online services etc etc.
Do you want to start that list? I can say I was impressed by the imagination and simple execution of the Ocarina when someone came one day blowing in an iPod Touch.