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hqh is offline hqh
2009-10-23 , 09:53
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#11
Originally Posted by Dactar View Post
Try this :

mv /opt /home/user/soft
ln -s /home/user/soft /opt

You should have now 2GB for /opt
Isn't /opt already symlinked to the home partition?

Originally Posted by Dactar View Post
Else try this :

mv /opt /home/user/MyDocs/soft
ln -s /home/user/MyDocs/soft /opt

You should have now 27GB for /opt
...And that might cause trouble for some applications because MyDocs has a FAT32 file system?
 

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2009-10-23 , 09:56
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hqh is right. Dactar's post isn't useful - and is potentially dangerous.

VFAT can't maintain the permissions, symlinks and other metadata necessary for a fully functioning Linux system. And /opt is already in the 2GB ext3 partition.
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2009-10-23 , 10:05
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
The trouble is that without fundamentally redesigning the OS structure (e.g. swap on 256MB flash and rootfs on eMMC) - which has both time, performance, tooling and QA implications - the only solution is to make sure stuff installs into /opt.
What about a bigger OneNAND Flash memory chip ? 512MB ?? or 1GB ??

Do they make such chips the same physical size as 256MB OneNAND chip (would minimise hardware re-design issues) ?

What sort of cost difference ??? Surely can't be much - all sort of memory seems so cheap these days ???

Would a bigger OneNAND chip affect battery life ?
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Andre Klapper is offline Andre Klapper
2009-10-23 , 10:05
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Feel free filing bugs asking them to use /opt and MyDocs as much as possible as explained in the link above.
...and please set the keyword "non-optified" for such bug reports - easier to find them.
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2009-10-23 , 10:10
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It's easy to say, "don't do x unless you know what you're doing," but many users will think that they know what they are doing. Effectively (it seems to me) the Nokia warning says "don't use your tablet normally; if you do, whatever happens is your fault". It is not unusual to install programs not from the manufacturer; I have done that on every computer I have ever had starting with the Sinclair I got at k-mart. And this is a little computer, not a mere phone.

So, I think that this problem will be solved and users will usually not encounter it.
 

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solideogloria is offline solideogloria
2009-10-23 , 10:19
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Is it possible to insert an ext3 formatted microsd card and symlink it to the root partition?
 
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2009-10-23 , 10:20
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Originally Posted by Zelig87 View Post
What about a bigger Flash memory chip ? 512MB ?? or 1GB ??

Do they make such chips the same physical size as 256MB chip (would avoid hardware re-design issues) ?
The 256 MB NAND flash is part of the OMAP 3430 system-on-a-chip. It's not a separate piece that can be swapped out.
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2009-10-23 , 10:21
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Isn't /opt already symlinked to the home partition?
I'm sorry, I didn't know that /opt was already mounted on /home/users.

..And that might cause trouble for some applications because MyDocs has a FAT32 file system?
Yes...right for some applications. It was just a workarround, not the perfect solution.

But :

If /home/users is on the same card of /home/users/MyDocs, what about shrink /home/users/MyDocs and expand /home/users ?

If /home/users is on a separate card of /home/users/MyDocs, what about shrink /home/users/MyDocs and create a second partition (ext3) in it at /home/users/soft and move /opt link to this new point ?

Finally, there's a lot of possibility for advanced users...but when the N900 will be released is there a hope that all this mess could be different ? If not, I think that a configuration widget for end users could be necessary [and | or] a modification of installation process of extra packages could be refused if they are not "optified" [and | or] something else...let's start brainstorming
 
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2009-10-23 , 10:27
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One things I'm not clear on with all this is where the microSD card gets mounted if there is one - could someone set me straight?
 
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2009-10-23 , 10:55
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One things I'm not clear on with all this is where the microSD card gets mounted if there is one - could someone set me straight?
/media/mmc1/
 
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