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2009-10-26 , 15:17
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its not that really its the fact that he only talked about two things the speed of the phone which i can say on a iphone basis will be different because the iphone doesn't multi-task in a sense. If the N900 only opened 1 app at a time it would be blazing fast. Also as far as themes im pretty sure you can make the N900 as "pretty" as you want to show off. When i played with it at the NYC store they said it was a old pre-production model yet i found that it ran good imo.
 
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2009-10-26 , 15:20
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Again: The multi-tasking aspect does _not_ slow down the device. If you want to speed up startup etc. you could for example leave out the X-server and run more bare-bones GUI-wise, but then you would miss out on some features. But the multi-tasking does _not_ slow down the N900 (or any of the earlier internet tablets).
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2009-10-26 , 15:34
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Thing is that many people look for a UI iPhone replacement, yes the iPhone has a nice UI whatever, the n900 has UI effects compared to Symbian FP1 but some people don't even care what the UI looks like, the important thing is the features and the usability of the device, it'ls like expecting a fart app for the n900 pre-production model.
 
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2009-10-26 , 15:39
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
Again: The multi-tasking aspect does _not_ slow down the device. If you want to speed up startup etc. you could for example leave out the X-server and run more bare-bones GUI-wise, but then you would miss out on some features. But the multi-tasking does _not_ slow down the N900 (or any of the earlier internet tablets).
Err how are you defining multi-tasking or slow-down. Because if I have Tear, a text PDF, and say Youamp running my n800 starts chugging.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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2009-10-26 , 15:45
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If you run an application that actually sucks CPU (and most don't, except when you're interacting with it), then there could be slowdowns obviously (maybe your Youamp is a CPU hog?) The other way of getting a slowdown is if you overflow RAM and start using swap space.

The kind of applications I have running (Skype, Maemo Mapper, browser, email, plus the dozens of daemons) aren't slowing down my N800.
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2009-10-26 , 15:47
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
But the multi-tasking does _not_ slow down the N900 (or any of the earlier internet tablets).
Hang on. My N810 certainly can get slow with lots of apps running at the same time. I like Maemo devices, but there's no need to be misleading about them to potential buyers, surely.
 

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2009-10-26 , 15:53
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
If you run an application that actually sucks CPU (and most don't, except when you're interacting with it), then there could be slowdowns obviously (maybe your Youamp is a CPU hog?) The other way of getting a slowdown is if you overflow RAM and start using swap space.

The kind of applications I have running (Skype, Maemo Mapper, browser, email, plus the dozens of daemons) aren't slowing down my N800.
So isn't it incorrect to say multi-tasking doesn't slow down the n900 or previous internet tablets? It's application dependent on how much it would slow down.
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"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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It does have a definitive GTK linux feel to it, but felt a bit poor to me. I guess it looked poor in the same way a Gnome desktop does right after installation.
Sorry, but this sounds like someone that's read that the UI uses GTK under the hood and hasn't actually played with it any. And the fact that he doesn't really elaborate on what makes him feel this way keeps me suspicious. I absolutely hate GTK as a UI toolkit.

This doesn't remotely feel like GTK to me when playing on the N900. Not the fonts, not the touch screen, not the UI... nothing. I'd like him to elaborate.
 

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2009-10-26 , 15:56
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Let's boil things down to the following: Multitasking per se does not slow things down. To launch a new application, for example, isn't slowed down just because you happen to run an operating system that can multitask.

Actual multitasking can slow things down when applications start to fight for resources (which isn't something that's implied simply because you're multitasking).

Sounds better?
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2009-10-26 , 16:17
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
Let's boil things down to the following: Multitasking per se does not slow things down. To launch a new application, for example, isn't slowed down just because you happen to run an operating system that can multitask.

Actual multitasking can slow things down when applications start to fight for resources (which isn't something that's implied simply because you're multitasking).

Sounds better?
Sorry fella, but this is confused.

Multitasking, by definition, increases demand on two fundamental resources - memory and CPU. It doesn't 'slow things down' in the sense that it causes the CPU to run slower - it will always be chugging along at 600MHz or whatever - but it can have an appreciable effect on the performance of individual programs, 'slowing' their responsiveness, making them 'feel' sluggish.

You may not experience any appreciable slowdown when you run a particular set of programs together, but that will depend entirely on the demands each particular program is placing on these resources.

Try running multiple youtube videos, or open a few xterms and run htop in each....then you'll get an idea of what it will take to make your device start to sweat. I imagine older devices will sweat earlier than later (N900) devices.

In short - the degree to which multitasking impacts overall performance will depend on the particular resource-demand characteristics of the specific software being used.
 
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