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#11
There will always be things that some people consider really important and some not. I think Nokia made a good balance with the N900 and implemented a good mix of features without leaving any showstoppers out.

The missing stuff you mentioned could be added to by ones others have thought, much easier than on other mobile platforms because of the ease of development.
 

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#12
Everybody seems to be going at the messenger instead of the message.

Me for one, think you're kind of right. These things are not part of the default delivery. And adding all of these, especially portrait GUIs for all default/Nokia applications, is a matter of quite a bit of work. I don't think all of these will be fixed by 31.01.10. But some will, and I am sure they will have a deadline on many issues related to the "N920" release.

As to the whole missing features because the N900 was rushed, I believe this to be a partial truth. I believe Nokia is bleeding in the smart phone market, and I believe the N97 failure increased the need for the N900 to come sooner rather than later.

The N900 is however not a quickfix, but something they have worked towards for years. It's a milestone release for Nokia, and it is hardly a thrown together device. As such, I believe the main reason that the N900 is less than feature perfect on the areas you point out, is not rush, but the simple fact that it's a "first Maemo phone". First generation anything always lack something while it excels in other things. It's a basic "where did they put the focus with this device" resource management question.

The N900 excels in many areas. So it's not really unexpected that there are some things that simply are basic but nothing extra. The media are bound to pick out these as cons, and the discussions will go around them. Like the missing MMS was used against the Iphone for years.

Like Apple had to implement the MMS as much as they didn't want to, Nokia too will have to do something about their "cons" list, before their next device. And each software fix will be to N900 owners benefit as well.

The much-promised "first firmware fix" will disappoint a lot of people, cause it simply cannot deliver everything people hope for. No firmware fix was ever a solve-it-all.

So, you get a lot of flack for putting together a list of things you think should have been done right the first time. Well, I think you're right, each of them should have been done right the first time. But it could not be expected that _all_ of these things are done the first time, because as a platform for phones, Maemo 5 is brand new, and no first version of anything is ever complete when the sales starts.

All in all I think the Maemo team have done admirably, it's a big job and so far it seems like they're "hitting gold", quote gsmarena.
 

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#13
Of the last I'd say critical features are:

-Portrait mode
-Menu Icon reordering
-Quick scrolling

The others are all nice and some users will like them but the lack of the above three really create an "unfinished" appearance.
 
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#14
Who are you?

Exactly, just go and get an iphone, and make my day
NO COMMENT

It does not make coffee.
loooool,u will be glad also if it has dishwasher


i'm much more concerned about issues like Mic not working and random reboots
Me too ,but it maybe software bugs which also will need to be fixed in upcoming firmware updates.

and seriously guys , I just mentioned missing functions in N900 that have been mentioned in this thread by other members many and many times with hope that nokia add them to N900 soon and If anyone does not miss them so good for him.
 
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#15
You can vote for your favorite feature requests and bugs to be fixed here:

https://bugs.maemo.org/
 

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#16
Originally Posted by TAD88 View Post
I think that Nokia rushed and released N900 with software that miss many functions that anyone can find them in its previous mobile devices like:

portrait mode

MMS

Speed and Voice Dialing

ability to make new profiles

ability to customize special ring tone for each one in my Contacts

ability to send files directly from File Manager

ability to rearrange Main menu icons and make new folders in it

Equalizer in Music player

FM Radio receiver program

ability to scroll rapidly in Photos and Music player which anyone will need when he has too many photos or songs

Search applicaton

Handwriting recognition

No voice recorder

No voice navigation

so do u think that Nokia will add all these features to Maemo 5 soon or it will take months to add them ?

and If u miss something else in Maemo 5 OS, plz just write it .

you have a good point! i really dont understand why these features were omitted...another thing missing is the option for the phone to speak out the callers name, really miss that feature.

hope that these features will be packed in until feb..

i`m getting tired with people either bashing the n900 or telling people t purchase an iphone whenever it is critized. there is nothing to dispute about the fact that the n900 would be way better if these standard s60 features were included.
 

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So, you get a lot of flack for putting together a list of things you think should have been done right the first time. Well, I think you're right, each of them should have been done right the first time. But it could not be expected that _all_ of these things are done the first time, because as a platform for phones, Maemo 5 is brand new, and no first version of anything is ever complete when the sales starts.
that is true but as me and other thought that many delays in releasing of N900 was to add these features so we became disappointed when device was released without them but that is OK as I love N900 I should be patient for Nokia to add these features to it.

Of the last I'd say critical features are:

-Portrait mode
-Menu Icon reordering
-Quick scrolling
Same for me but also Voice Dialing and ability to customize special ring tone for each one in my Contacts


i`m getting tired with people either bashing the n900 or telling people t purchase an iphone whenever it is critized. there is nothing to dispute about the fact that the n900 would be way better if these standard s60 features were included.
you are right, with these guys we can not discuss any of N900 problems here as they will repeat this message (get iphone , buy iphone , go for iphone, iphone iphone bla bla bla) to anyone just try to discuss any thing about N900

Thanks for any useful answer

Last edited by TAD88; 2009-11-27 at 17:01.
 
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#18
Fact 1: The N900 is not for everyone
Fact 2: Nokia have stated repeatedly that certain features were left out due to lack of time, but they have also promised releasing patches which fixes alot of these issues. They have even gone so far as to say: "We will provide extensive portrait mode support by the end of the year". When they actually dare to give out such a specific time window, I believe they will make it happen.

So, it was never a secret that these features were not going to be on the device at time of release. If you expected the features to be there regardless of what previous reports said, you should simply have waited longer before getting the N900..
 

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#19
things I think is important (listed by importance):
1) ability to scroll rapidly in Photos and Music player (have over 3000 numbers... and will have more with the 32gb.)
2) Arrange media by the iD3 tag and/or it would be nice to be able to tag your media files (music and video) like your photos (with tags/genres you can edit yourself.)
3) ability to send files directly from File Manager
4) MMS (I do send quite alot of those. Nice and easy postcard)
5) re-arrange icons

Don't care about portrait mode... (think it's annoying that the screen rearranges if I tilt the phone...) Have disabled that on my flashed HD so it only works in browser... Hate that the iPod switches to that album flipper if tilted too much and same thing with the HD. But If others want it fine by me ( I just hope it will be optional)
 
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#20
Good imput! Now if you want to more than merely talk about your ideas go here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=353146&postcount=1

This is where the real fun of opensource community starts. We can do more than talk we can contribute!! If you don't want to contribute this is okay also. Having choices is freedom!
 

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