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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by nowave7
I use the terminal several times a day and have so far, knock on wood, never done anything that have caused any issues.
On the other hand, noobs most definitely should not use terminal on their tablets!
For instance, I find using the terminal and the command line to be great for;
- unzipping/unraring/untaring files,
- dpkg / apt-get, ( to install, update and clean)
- certain apps like iptraff, dungeon crawl, etc require you to run them from the command line,
- etc.
If you dont, as a n00b, explore your device outside of the GUI you might as well run Android (which is a great OS).
I'm a total Linux n00b.
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2009-12-02
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Are you a noob? You don't sound like one. 
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by nowave7
True, there are a few instances where you need to go to the terminal level but I haven't used Windows terminal in months if not years (except for a batch file I have on my desktop to do a forced shutdown). With Windows, at least, almost everything you need to do has been GUI-fied and stuck somewhere in the Control Panel.
And you indeed may never, ever use the terminal, but as an ordinary user. For more advanced users terminal is still the place to be(even on Windows).
The thing is in the approach. Some of the things you will never be able to do in GUI, say shell scripting. It's just two different concepts.
I started in DOS, I know DOS, and I don't want to go back.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by nowave7
I'm a complete Linux noob.
Are you a noob? You don't sound like one.
The things listed represent about 90% of what I know how to do.
No idea what SDK, Qt, etc really means and constantly type dir instead of ls.
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2009-12-02
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Originally Posted by DaveP1
My, let's not go there
I started in DOS, I know DOS, and I don't want to go back.
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2009-12-03
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Originally Posted by Tintin
You don't have to be a developer to say that you are familiar with the OS.
I'm a complete Linux noob.
The things listed represent about 90% of what I know how to do.
No idea what SDK, Qt, etc really means and constantly type dir instead of ls.
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2009-12-03
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Originally Posted by crail
Yes, actually, you can't just install .deb files in the App Manager anymore. You either have to do "dpkg -i packagename.deb" as root, or use <shudder> Red Pill mode.
what about using terminal to install deb files on n900. Is that safe or even necessary?
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Originally Posted by BrentDC
A perfect example of this is the /home/user/.osso directory. That has tons of system settings and can be completely wiped out by the user.
TBut how about:
rm /home/user/ some_harmless_directory_I_want_to_delete
No sudo, force option, yet big problem.
EDIT2: Oops, actually there are very few settings left in that directory in Maemo 5...
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Originally Posted by DaveP1
Windows has a terminal?
... I haven't used Windows terminal in months if not years ...
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2009-12-03
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Being able to brick the thing is one of the big reasons I'm buying it! But of course, I will have full backups of anything that goes on it, including bookmarks with Firefox Weave plugin.
I may be a noob, but I'm not stupid.
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2009-12-03
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Originally Posted by MrGrim
It's statements like that which give Linux an unfair reputation for being a nerds-only OS.
Many simply say "don't use the terminal if you're a noob". And i think they're pretty wrong.
There is absolutely zero need to use command lines on a mobile Linux device, and zero need to use command lines on e.g. Ubuntu.
You can if you want, if you are an advanced user, but ordinary users who just want to check their e-mail and surf the web and listen to music really don't need to go anywhere near any command lines.
Linux is good enough for ordinary users' needs too nowadays, and that's the message we should be getting out if we want Linux to become a mainstream OS.
I remember my first steps into linux. Gosh was i shaky. I had some experience with the awful windows command prompt
But the newbs are told not to do that, for fear of somehow doing some damage.
It doesn't matter whether there's potential for damage or not. The problem with a command line is that it is inherently unintuitive.
Clicking on a globe to access the internet, clicking on an envelope to access e-mail, that's intuitive. Typing the word "sudo" followed by some seemingly random letters and numbers is not in any shape or form intuitive.
So my proposal is: let's give newbs some credit for being reasonably capable. Don't tell them off using terminal just because they don't have experience - they aren't going to get any either by not doing anything.
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