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2009-12-08
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So i know i won't make use of this anytime soon, but how do i boot an alternate os on my n900. has anyone made a tutorial?
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by bocaJ
if you dont have to hurry, wait for the installer apps. then you don't need even a tutorial...
So i know i won't make use of this anytime soon, but how do i boot an alternate os on my n900. has anyone made a tutorial?
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2009-12-08
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Nokia is marketing this device as coming with no jail, so there's no jailbreaking. It comes with the door to the root room locked, but you're told where the key is.
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by mece
I think checking that what you are talking about is correct before hitting that submit button is always a good idea.
Yep, the same way relationships and taxes work: With magic. What did you think?
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2009-12-08
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OK, so let me ask more specifically: has anyone booted the device from the separate sdhc card with ANY distro that can run on ARMEL architecture? Not sudo gainroot, emulators or easy debian.
Simply what I was wondering if there were boot images out there that would have preinstalled different distros on it that people can copy and start using, much like canned virtual machine images for vmware?
So, if I wake up in the morning and I want a desktop-like environment in redhat, can I swap-in the sdhc card, and if for lunch my taste is for openbsd, can I do that?
Simply what I was wondering if there were boot images out there that would have preinstalled different distros on it that people can copy and start using, much like canned virtual machine images for vmware?
So, if I wake up in the morning and I want a desktop-like environment in redhat, can I swap-in the sdhc card, and if for lunch my taste is for openbsd, can I do that?
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
You (sadly) have to rely on it being a Linux kernel. There's also a non-trivial amount of work in getting things running.
So, if I wake up in the morning and I want a desktop-like environment in redhat, can I swap-in the sdhc card, and if for lunch my taste is for openbsd, can I do that?
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by OrangeBox
What Stskeeps humbly didn't mention is that he is working on an alternate distribution -- Mer. At this point it is focused towards the N8x0 platform mainly, however there is nothing limiting people with an N900 to help and provide some man-hours to get it running on the N900.
OK, so let me ask more specifically: has anyone booted the device from the separate sdhc card with ANY distro that can run on ARMEL architecture? Not sudo gainroot, emulators or easy debian.
Simply what I was wondering if there were boot images out there that would have preinstalled different distros on it that people can copy and start using, much like canned virtual machine images for vmware?
So, if I wake up in the morning and I want a desktop-like environment in redhat, can I swap-in the sdhc card, and if for lunch my taste is for openbsd, can I do that?
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2009-12-08
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Damn it! I want OS X! How about SUN? 
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2009-12-08
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People got the other Maemo devices booting to other Linux distributions. As Stskeeps mentioned, it took a lot of hacking to get it working, and things just never got quite right.
I personally think the "Easy Debian" route is the best one for the N900 for the simple reason that people want to keep using it like a phone, and they're not going to want to lose that functionality when they leave Maemo.
So this means one of three approaches:
So, the only way I've found to get a secondary environment is to use vncserver in the Debian environment, and the Maemo vncviewer to view the WM.
Needless to say, I'm pretty frustrated at the moment.
I personally think the "Easy Debian" route is the best one for the N900 for the simple reason that people want to keep using it like a phone, and they're not going to want to lose that functionality when they leave Maemo.
So this means one of three approaches:
- Run apps from different distributions right in the Maemo environment. This seems to be a bit of a disaster, as the window manager mangles the dialogs and widgets pretty badly.
- Close down Hildon / Matchbox, start your own desktop environment (like Penguinbait's KDE, or my replacement-LXDE) -- I haven't heard if this works yet. You want to keep the telephony stack running, and it may not be stable in other desktop environments. Looking forward to the first reports from hackers in the next weeks as the DDP devices finally start arriving to our Hacker Team
- Run a secondary desktop environment on top of Maemo. Again the window manager hinders us! The Xephyr nested X-Server, which I used on previous devices to show a secondary desktop, doesn't grab the keyboard properly due to the WM's non-standard way of giving input focus to windows! Argh!
So, the only way I've found to get a secondary environment is to use vncserver in the Debian environment, and the Maemo vncviewer to view the WM.
Needless to say, I'm pretty frustrated at the moment.
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by CrashandDie
Guys, I am fairly new to Linux and Maemo, so please don't take this the wrong way, I actually want to know.....
What Stskeeps humbly didn't mention is that he is working on an alternate distribution -- Mer. At this point it is focused towards the N8x0 platform mainly, however there is nothing limiting people with an N900 to help and provide some man-hours to get it running on the N900.
Why is making an alternative boot image/alternative OS difficult?
I made a bootable external USB hard drive of Ubuntu 9.10 to use with my laptop (F12 at start up - away I go). Did this to learn Linux once I saw that N900 was Linux based, been a windows user for too long
Why can't we not just image a microSD with Ubuntu (or any other distro - I am guessing Ubuntu works with omap3430 architecture btw) and boot from it?
If you look at it like I am, N900 would just be used as I am using my laptop.
I guess you would need drivers etc specific for the device etc, but I just can't see what is stopping us doing this.
As I said I am fairly new to Linux/Maemo/Internet tablets so if I am missing something very basic please forgive me, but an explaination of the problem/why we can't just do this would be great
Thanks in advance
BTW: - I wouldn't expect to have all the functionality, like phone etc just literally the Ubuntu desktop as it would be on a laptop (desktop on screen, keyboard, touchscreen).
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