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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
I would have expected to see at least a blog post or a news item from Nokia mentioning the upgrade and a changelog. The changelog can be copied to the wiki and improved by the community later, but I still think there should initially be an official announcement/changelog. Witness the confusion when the upgrade came out of the blue, and there was no web page to consult to even see if it was genuine.
You realize this isn't community-created, right? Nokia contracts Andre to create the list and it gets posted on the wiki because that's a place where it can be improved by the community if need be.
Last edited by pelago; 2010-02-18 at 10:08.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by jacktanner
you missed it just a little bit:
I'm kind of unhappy over the release of firmware updates without official changelogs. Case in point: PR 1.1.1. I'm aware of the changelog on the wiki, but community created ones are beside the point. I want to have a detailed, human-readable list of what's in an update before I install it.
Let's talk about it, and if enough people feel the same, we can start a brainstorm.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1
simple change to url gives you something you are after, doesn't it?
e: it is fine to me that only the bigger updates are given proper changelog. it's better than nothing (the way it was before) and I am hoping PR1.2 will get similar one after it has been released.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by jacktanner
It's a mixture. :-P Sometimes bug reports internally get closed with a "It's already FIXED as I remember something, but I don't remember which exact internal release and don't have time to search for it in ChangeLogs or if a ticket for this existed to correctly mark it as a duplicate".
But if something is wrong with the changelog that Andre posts, I can't know if that's his fault or Nokia's fault (or some wiki editor's fault).
Hence sometimes things are a bit unclear, also because of Nokia's unclear branching policy - 3.* was PR1.1.1 as we all know now, but it took me a while to find out whether 3.* just included some "cherry-picked" patches, or if it was branched at some point from the internal "master" releases that will lead to a PR1.2 release etc.
Hope this helps a bit...
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2010-02-18
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they probably dont know the changes they made. same thing happened with maemo5. they didnt know it doesnt suit them. it just took them 2 months to realize.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by el3ctronick
They should know, as they knew for 2.2009.51-1. See http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1
they probably dont know the changes they made.
Nokia is not a bunch of totally unorganized hippies (though it sometimes may look like that). :-P
Originally Posted by el3ctronick
Please provide proof for your statement, or elaborate at least.
same thing happened with maemo5.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper
maemo5 announced that it is discontinued after 2 and a half months of life. during these 2 months they were saying that maemo will be their primary OS for all nokia devices. i think thats enough.
They should know, as they knew for 2.2009.51-1. See http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1
Nokia is not a bunch of totally unorganized hippies (though it sometimes may look like that). :-P
Please provide proof for your statement, or elaborate at least.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by el3ctronick
Yeah, you should probably do some more reading or something.
maemo5 announced that it is discontinued after 2 and a half months of life. during these 2 months they were saying that maemo will be their primary OS for all nokia devices. i think thats enough.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by el3ctronick
What the hell are you talking about?
maemo5 announced that it is discontinued after 2 and a half months of life. during these 2 months they were saying that maemo will be their primary OS for all nokia devices. i think thats enough.
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2010-02-18
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Originally Posted by el3ctronick
These statements are worthless without exact quotes, with exact URLs. I can also state anything without proving.
maemo5 announced that it is discontinued after 2 and a half months of life. during these 2 months they were saying that maemo will be their primary OS for all nokia devices. i think thats enough.
Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_u...inty_and_doubt .
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