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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by Matan
Do you know that list? And if you point to sources of that it would be excelent. Even the binaries *may* help... as long as it can be ported like windows network card drivers. Sometime just adjustment of kernel version can be enough.
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by acvetkov
For example, kernels >= 2.6.32 have less crappy I/O scheduler:
Edit: Why do you want to upgrade the kernel? Missing some function
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_3...c9041b490b71db
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by wolf
FTA: "but it can cause noticeable performance issues"
For example, kernels >= 2.6.32 have less crappy I/O scheduler:
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_3...c9041b490b71db
I'd be more interested in what this is. I'm not aware of the N900 doing THAT many background writes that it would benefit from this feature, especially if it can hurt performance elsewhere..
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2010-03-08
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#14
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Under the same link "1.10. Run-time Power Management" looks of particular benefit to a mobile device. Later kernels are typically more efficient.
Strange there are Cortex based amendments and a few N810 patches in that release. I guess with the Android devices running A8s improvements will be passed down to the main release, but if the N900 doesn't move along it will miss out on the benefits.
Strange there are Cortex based amendments and a few N810 patches in that release. I guess with the Android devices running A8s improvements will be passed down to the main release, but if the N900 doesn't move along it will miss out on the benefits.
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2010-03-08
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You could always backport the useful patches against mainline to the version running on the N900. Would probably be a lot easier than dealing with broken firmware,etc that is out of our hands 
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2010-03-09
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tell me - in more technically detailed terms, how would upgrading the kernel cause serious compatibility issues with firmware? Heck, Luke-Jr was able to get a 2.6.32+ kernel booting on the Nokia N800/N810, even the N770 was able to run newer kernels! - I don't see why it's not the same for the N900. Sure the N900 has diffrent hardware - but i don't see how it's not possible.
Come on, guys!, where is your maemo spirit! I know this community can do it!
Come on, guys!, where is your maemo spirit! I know this community can do it!
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2010-03-09
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I think this thread should be merged with the one Flandry pointed to.
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2010-03-09
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Originally Posted by b-man
I doubt that standard Linux kernel has a driver to communicate with cell/3G firmware developed by Nokia.
tell me - in more technically detailed terms, how would upgrading the kernel cause serious compatibility issues with firmware? Heck, Luke-Jr was able to get a 2.6.32+ kernel booting on the Nokia N800/N810, even the N770 was able to run newer kernels! - I don't see why it's not the same for the N900. Sure the N900 has diffrent hardware - but i don't see how it's not possible.
Come on, guys!, where is your maemo spirit! I know this community can do it!
It is just example. But there is another issue - some changes in N900 kernel may not go through to Linux kernel mainline, there is no guarantee that Linus (or his helpers) accept that.
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2010-03-09
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Originally Posted by b-man
Booting a kernel and booting a kernel to an environment that uses all hardware as it was intended are two totally different things
tell me - in more technically detailed terms, how would upgrading the kernel cause serious compatibility issues with firmware? Heck, Luke-Jr was able to get a 2.6.32+ kernel booting on the Nokia N800/N810, even the N770 was able to run newer kernels! - I don't see why it's not the same for the N900. Sure the N900 has diffrent hardware - but i don't see how it's not possible.
Come on, guys!, where is your maemo spirit! I know this community can do it!
I have no question that the latest mainline kernels could boot on the N900, but I would easily take an older Nokia-supported-with-drivers kernel than a new one that has non-functional hardware because Nokia does not support it.
I think this thread should be merged with the one Flandry pointed to.
Last edited by craftyguy; 2010-03-09 at 00:34.
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2010-03-09
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Originally Posted by egoshin
This is true - but couldn't we patch the drivers from fremantle's current kernel to the newer kernel?
I doubt that standard Linux kernel has a driver to communicate with cell/3G firmware developed by Nokia.
Originally Posted by egoshin
This is also verry true - but couldn't we host our own kernel source? I'm sure it can be done, but i'm a bit concerned about the resources required to accomplish this.
It is just example. But there is another issue - some changes in N900 kernel may not go through to Linux kernel mainline, there is no guarantee that Linus (or his helpers) accept that.
edit: perhaps http://gitorious.org/ ?
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enhanced fedora port has been canceled in favor of NITDebian (TBA)
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I am involved with Mer, Deblet, and NITdroid.
My ports/creations/hacks: GNOME (for Deblet), Cdeb2», Ubuntu, playable flash games in the "Get Started" app, DBS, ect...
enhanced fedora port has been canceled in favor of NITDebian (TBA)
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