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#11
Let me make it clear that I don't consider Google Docs and Spreadsheets necessarily a Good Thing <TM>. On a desktop, with a permanent connection to the Internet, perhaps, but not on a tablet, especially if I have to forego about 2/3 of my battery life to edit documents. And I'm not even talking about the times I don't have a connection, when Google's apps are essentially non-existent...
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
Let me make it clear that I don't consider Google Docs and Spreadsheets necessarily a Good Thing <TM>. On a desktop, with a permanent connection to the Internet, perhaps, but not on a tablet, especially if I have to forego about 2/3 of my battery life to edit documents. And I'm not even talking about the times I don't have a connection, when Google's apps are essentially non-existent...
ok, i share your opinion. But,
- can we suppose that 3G coverage can compensate - if not too expensive - no wi-fi coverage
- can we work off-line by saving a local version , say a spreadsheet, which then we can edit w/ Gnumeric for instance
- is there a better/perfect solution?

about power consumption, that's clearly a bottleneck, can we expect that some decent saving will be made by OS improvement? or?

S-
 
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Originally Posted by Seb Per View Post
ok, i share your opinion. But,
- can we suppose that 3G coverage can compensate - if not too expensive - no wi-fi coverage
Sure, I'm easy.

- can we work off-line by saving a local version , say a spreadsheet, which then we can edit w/ Gnumeric for instance
Both Gnumeric and Abiword work (for various values of "work") on my NaB00. The bottleneck, for me, is rapidly becoming the clumsy HWR of the ITOS.

- is there a better/perfect solution?
Why, my Newton. Obviously.
Except that it can hardly go online, has an ancient B/W screen and a file system that nothing in the Known Universe understands.
But it's a heck of a notetaker and numbercruncher.

about power consumption, that's clearly a bottleneck, can we expect that some decent saving will be made by OS improvement? or?
This is claimed by the short-term roadmap. However, note that noone gave a number for "decent". Also, no matter how much power might improve with a firmware update, the power available while online will always be significantly less than offline. And if you can only edit documents decently online, there will always be a disgruntled feeling (well, that's how I know I'll feel anyway).
 
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Because nobody talks about Google Calendar, I assume it still doesn't work?
 
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thx

I like 0.16.11-1 much better than the previous version
 
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#17
I like this version also but it is still crashing too often. It should be more stable otherwise it's not useful for internet. I was hoping maybe too much that this version would be the stable one.
 
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#18
Originally Posted by markku View Post
I like this version also but it is still crashing too often. It should be more stable otherwise it's not useful for internet. I was hoping maybe too much that this version would be the stable one.
I've got some crashes as well ... do you a list of sites ?

thanks
 
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#19
Just goes to show how different two person's experience can be... what platform are you on ? N800 ?

On my 770 this version is an incredible improvement over any of the previous ones. Of course the one just before (0.16.9) was the worst of all : difficult to install (missing dependencies) and so instable there was clearly something wrong - it never survived more than two or three clicks (on links, scrollbars, almost anything) and a handful of seconds...

This 16.11 is like a dream : the upgrade went right through, and it's been running for a couple of hours or more without crashing - itself or the tablet :-)

I've been making the rounds of all the sites I usually visit with the tablet, without any issues. As always, the browser startup is slow, but once it's loaded it's very fast, feels snappier than Opera.

Then I cycled through all the sites I can't - or don't dare - use with Opera because of the AJAX problem : Google mail (in full mode), Calendar and Maps, Netvibes, TiddlyWiki, sometimes together in several tabs... It does pause and think sometimes, but it did them all, and it's still going...

In my book this is more stable than Opera itself :-)

The new interface is much nicer and more usable.

This a very welcome surprise -- here we were thinking that minimo was all but dead in the water, and not only does it move ahead, but all of a sudden we jump from nice-but-flaky alpha versions to a perfectly usable beta...

Thanks Antonio ! Can't wait for 0.2 :-)
 
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#20
I am quite surprised by the low level of feedback to this release, here and elsewhere.

It used to be that each new version of minimo for maemo would generate a flurry of excitement and comments (positive or negative) in these forums.

It may just be that this one (which is a *major* upgrade, despite the small numbering gap) turns out to be the best thing that ever happened to my Nokia in terms of fulfilling its "Internet Tablet" mission, yet the silence is astounding.

Of course, I for one consider the lack of Flash, and the associated intrusive ads, as a quality, so YMMV :-)
 
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