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2010-06-10
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what if we start getting requests like these every week. What if a lawsuit is filed against Nokia for a software patent would we pull them all?
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2010-06-10
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So if we face a patent suit over the Maemo 5 operating system = kill switch OS update sent to all N900's...?
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2010-06-10
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Originally Posted by andrewfblack
We had this discussion before. The problem always is that this isn't just some shady community-run site. It's backed by Nokia and therefore an attractive target. That's the price we have to pay for Nokia's financial involvement with the site.
what if we start getting requests like these every week. What if a lawsuit is filed against Nokia for a software patent would we pull them all?
One of the solutions proposed then was a "bad" repository that would host anything a clean, conservative, law-abiding community wouldn't want to have at the moment. Such a private, "bad" repository wouldn't easily be a target for manic lawyers.
But until we have that... Better be safe, I'd say.
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2010-06-10
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It's easy for people to support maemo.org taking risks when they're not the ones who have to deal with consequences.
"Better safe than sorry" can be seen as a weasel's policy, but in these times of software patent litigation it's unavoidable... especially for organizations like this one.
Oh, and just say no to software patents.
"Better safe than sorry" can be seen as a weasel's policy, but in these times of software patent litigation it's unavoidable... especially for organizations like this one.
Oh, and just say no to software patents.
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2010-06-10
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Originally Posted by Texrat
This. (biglongmessagestuffythingshere)
Oh, and just say no to software patents.
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2010-06-10
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AFAIK the issue is Courgette,
an algorithm for reducing the size of software updates
http://blog.chromium.org/2009/07/sma...safer-too.html
Maemo's software updates use apt/.deb, so how about disabling
Courgette in Chrome as it is not used anyway?
an algorithm for reducing the size of software updates
http://blog.chromium.org/2009/07/sma...safer-too.html
Maemo's software updates use apt/.deb, so how about disabling
Courgette in Chrome as it is not used anyway?
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2010-06-10
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I'm sure this will blow over eventually like the situation did with Nokia vs. Nintendo..
if you still want to install chromium, email me at mckenzba@gmail.com and i'll give you a link
if you still want to install chromium, email me at mckenzba@gmail.com and i'll give you a link
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I am involved with Mer, Deblet, and NITdroid.
My ports/creations/hacks: GNOME (for Deblet), Cdeb2», Ubuntu, playable flash games in the "Get Started" app, DBS, ect...
enhanced fedora port has been canceled in favor of NITDebian (TBA)
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2010-06-10
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Originally Posted by benny1967
Very good idea. I'm looking forward for BAD repository...
We had this discussion before. The problem always is that this isn't just some shady community-run site. It's backed by Nokia and therefore an attractive target. That's the price we have to pay for Nokia's financial involvement with the site.
One of the solutions proposed then was a "bad" repository that would host anything a clean, conservative, law-abiding community wouldn't want to have at the moment. Such a private, "bad" repository wouldn't easily be a target for manic lawyers.
But until we have that... Better be safe, I'd say.
oh god I have so many things to add there
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2010-06-10
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Originally Posted by titan
That is one of the avenues the Council, Nokia Legal and jacekowski have been investigating.
AFAIK the issue is Courgette,
an algorithm for reducing the size of software updates
http://blog.chromium.org/2009/07/sma...safer-too.html
Maemo's software updates use apt/.deb, so how about disabling
Courgette in Chrome as it is not used anyway?
There are two sides to any mitigation:
- Does the person who sent the C&D accept that you've removed "their" IP? Including in the source code remember.
- If not, is it a risk those who are the target of any lawsuit willing to bear; based on technical assurances?
As it says in the announcement, it's pushed the issue of maemo.org governance to the fore again, but it's difficult to immediately think of structures which a) don't expose volunteers to cease & desist letters or b) don't force Nokia Legal to err on the side of caution.
Someone has to take responsibility, and if you want to pursue #1 then you want to act in good faith whilst those discussions continue.
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I see no advantage in taking these risks. I'd see huge advantages in throwing foul zucchini at people who abuse so-calles software patents.