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Thank you everyone who read this thread who bothered to give me at least a hint about the wget thing. Truly. [/sarcasm]

I found it some info on what I was asking:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...highlight=wget
You just use "apt-get install wget" as root, if you want it. It doesn't show up in app manager (the hildon default one) because it doesn't fit into the "user" category. (Though I'm vague on how this works, so I can't clarify.) Other application managers don't hide the non-user stuff though.

As for where to download the file if you're not using wget, I deduced from MohammadAG's http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60599 thread that if you just use dpkg -i [path of file]/file.deb everything should work, so any directory is fine to place the .deb into.

I'm experimenting with these flags, but hildon-desktop does funny things sometimes, a portrait flag applies to all windows/dialogs under the main one, however, sometimes it changes the orientation to landscape for no reason, when that happens the dashboard button is small until the device is rotated into landscape mode.

I'm still not sure what causes this, facebrick is also affected by it, but not microB.

axel is the same as wget, just replace the word wget with axel.

It's wonderful to see how far people are able to take the N900.

Taking it a bit further, do you think it would be possible for someone to come up with some kind of daemon that would check when an app is launched if it is on an approved user or predefined list of rotatable apps and if so, apply the CTRL+SHIFT+R combination silently?

That would pretty much give system-wide portrait.

so after "axel www.blah.com/stuff.deb", "dpkg -i stuff.deb" should work automatically? Because I can't find what the default download path the N900 axel port uses (nor does the -h/--help option for axel tell you how to set the download path).

Also, if you're slowly working through various things and enabling portrait mode, and chance you have looked into rotatedaemon? Would finding some way to make hildon as a whole play nice with that be more efficient than making the open programs use portrait mode properly be more efficient perhaps?

dannycamps: there's already an app that runs ctrl-shift-r on everything open at the time - namely, the "toggle rotation" option on the shortcutd program does this - so I'm sure what you're suggesting should be very feasible. Not sure how efficient it would be, but feasible, certainly.

What I am thinking is similar to the toggle rotation option on shortcutd but automatic - meaning whenever a new program is launched, trigger the rotation toggle.

Flow would be like this:

1. Program Launched
2. Get process name of newly launched program
3. check process name against list of processes to see if rotation allowed (meaning it plays nicely)
4. If rotation allowed, apply rotation toggle (no keypress necessary).

The list of programs that are allowed to rotate could be something that is maintained via a control panel applet.

I like the idea tbh, but I've never looked into daemons
I'll see what I can do, no promises on this one.

If Nokia's handing governship of Maemo.org to the community, how about releasing them closed source bits as well into the open! :/

Srsly, what if we just asked Nokia to do this in the most formal way imaginable? Who should we ask? Who should do the asking?

Have a look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_developme...hange_requests
I doubt they'll even consider it.

Yeah, I doubt they'll be open sourcing stuff unless someone actually enlightened gets off their *** over-there and makes everyone else realize that there's no point in keeping random blobs closed. I mean, really, is Hildon Application Manager or whatever else they have closed so important or contain actual trade secrets, or some competitive advantage they'd lose if they released the source? Given that we have Faster Application Manager, which does the same thing but with more options, but better (or faster, at least), I doubt it.

What I would LOVE to see is an open source phone modem stack, but that's just not gonna happen. And would be very dangerous - it's just like NMap or aircrack-ng or Metasploit. Sure, they're "security auditing" tools, and people do use them to that end, but just as many chose a darker hat color. Same with war-dialers... So an open source modem stack would be wonderful, but at the same time, it would probably lead to many many problems. (Such as the need to firewall every cell tower, probably... Actually, why aren't we pushing for that right now? Cell towers and phone-communications channels should be brought under the purview of net neutrality as far as I am concerned... Bah, tangent.)

Anyway, anyone start making an open source clone of the Notification Light thingy? Again, I would, but I know nothing coding wise. Though if someone could point me to A: the language they think I should use to code it, and B: A free (ideally open source) compiler that runs in Windows for me to compile in, I'll gladly bury myself in some manuals on the language and deliver my shitty first attempt as soon as I can.

A bit off-topic, I know, but I would love LOVE it if you could take a look at the FM Radio app (receiver, not transmitter)..

It's UI doesn't support portrait mode AT ALL, and yet every time I launch it, it appears to have portrait rotation set to 'ON'. It's quite annoying and it would be great to have portrait mode disabled completely for that app.