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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by mohannad
well, his interpretation of smartphone is limited to what the iphone does.
Did he just compare a $50 phone to a smartphone?!! AND he is labeling Nokia as the "$50 handsets" manufacturer! This guy needs to get shot!
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2010-10-19
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Try reading just Jobs' quotes and ignore the writer's mistaken remarks.
@mohannad: he's saying they want to stick to making smartphones, and they can't sell those for $50.
Last edited by ysss; 2010-10-19 at 14:42.
@mohannad: he's saying they want to stick to making smartphones, and they can't sell those for $50.
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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by ysss
Read the whole article and nothing really seems mistaken.
Try reading just Jobs' quotes and ignore the writer's mistaken remarks.
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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by richwhite
Where does it specifically mention open and closed source, other than the author's interpretation of Jobs' vague remark?
Read the whole article and nothing really seems mistaken.
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2010-10-19
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Why is it that whenever Jobs talks, I hear the "...lack of faith disturbing." - D Vader quote, as well as Vader's Theme music?
Hmmm.... Darth Jobs...... Steve Vader.....
.....why can't I catch my breath?.... gasp....gasp.....thud.....
Hmmm.... Darth Jobs...... Steve Vader.....
.....why can't I catch my breath?.... gasp....gasp.....thud.....
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N800 (retired...soon to eBay)
Favorite Apps: CommunitySSU,DiabloTurbo, Flipclock, Keepnote, Dialcentral,
Gizmo5 ,MediaBox/pyFMradio, Telescope,Diablo5 theme, Tear, Personal Menu/Launcher, OMWeather,Blubbels, Advanced Power/Backlight...now to play with Garnet6...
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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by ysss
Specifically? Right here:
Where does it specifically mention open and closed source, other than the author's interpretation of Jobs' vague remark?
"Google loves to characterize Android as open, and iOS and iPhone as closed," Jobs said. "We find this a bit disingenuous and clouding the differences between our two approaches."
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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by richwhite
Is there any way that could make meego not ending up fragmented or will it have the same problems as android as there is no solution to it?
While Jobs isn't wrong at all about Android, there is a vast difference between open/closed and fragmented/integrated. I fully agree that integrated is generally better because the manufacturer can tailor the software to the hardware, rather than vice versa, but that has no impact on its openness. Maemo isn't fragmented because it's Nokia specific, but it's still open
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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by richwhite
Can't be too subtle can I?
Specifically? Right here:
"Google loves to characterize Android as open, and iOS and iPhone as closed," Jobs said. "We find this a bit disingenuous and clouding the differences between our two approaches."
Where does it specifically say open and closed source?
Is there only 1 interpretation to the terms 'open' vs 'closed' in the context of platforms?
Even google (forgot whom) alluded to themselves as 'more open than ios', without any specifics.
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2010-10-19
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Originally Posted by richwhite
The thread title should read, "Steve Jobs Dodges Open/Closed Question to Talk About Fragtmentation."
While Jobs isn't wrong at all about Android, there is a vast difference between open/closed and fragmented/integrated. I fully agree that integrated is generally better because the manufacturer can tailor the software to the hardware, rather than vice versa, but that has no impact on its openness. Maemo isn't fragmented because it's Nokia specific, but it's still open
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I agree that Maemo is (was?) limited by the binary blobs but MeeGo is not - the closed parts for the N900 needed by MeeGo are now redistributable. MeeGo is much like android in that regard, an open OS but closed parts for hardware. It should be quite easily possible to "cook" MeeGo flashes for devices just as Android.
Hell.. people already have it booting on a Nexus One.
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