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2010-12-24
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Originally Posted by aligoodidea
You have no idea what you are talking about. For a start no-one is talking about modifying the driver. Secondly modifying a closed source driver is not illegal (at least in most jurisdictions), just difficult, however distributing the changes may be depending on how it is done, but if all that is distributed was a patch file of the changes and not the whole driver it should be legal. Thirdly, if you think modifying something you own is immoral you need to re-evaluate your morals, most people wouldn't consider modifying something they had come into possession of legitimately immoral. Finally, the touchscreen driver isn't owned or made by Sony or even closed source,
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2010-12-24
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Originally Posted by aligoodidea
I'll admit I've only done a cursory search, so I could have missed some details, so if you can provide some sources for what you claim I'll appreciate it. But the touchscreen controller is the Texas Instrument TSC2005, which obviously is made by Texas Instruments, not Sony, and the driver for it was pushed upstream for inclusion with the Linux kernel by Nokia here.
Sadly I should say it is owned by sony,Second,you should read Maemo software copyright again(please do it),I already had an idea of sending the first touch (and so on) turn by turn,note them each and delay them as long as the proximity sensor held. then send the noted coordinates all at once, using the gift procedure to bypass the X-Server and directly send them to the preenv application(But it requires a major driver modification).
And can you tell me what part of the Maemo licence is relevant to the touchscreen driver that I need to read (preferably with a link). Please bear in mind that it is unlikely that the licence would legally give them more rights to stop modification or reverse engineering than they would have without an explicit licence.
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2010-12-24
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Originally Posted by retsaw
He hasn't. There's no single part of the input stack that is closed, yet for some reason we have to read the "Maemo software copyright".
You have no idea what you are talking about. ,
Preenv requires some work to be able to simulate multitouch. Namely, Palm uses a partially modified SDL with 1.2 and 1.3 bits, while on the N900 we use a pretty much stock SDL 1.2 In order to get multitouch to work Preenv would need to ship its own SDL, based on cleaning the released bits of the Palm's SDL.
This is not very hard but would complicate maintenance quite a bit, and as you can guess, I do not have time to spare
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2010-12-24
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Originally Posted by retsaw
I know the touchscreen controller is the Texas Instrument TSC2005
I'll admit I've only done a cursory search, so I could have missed some details, so if you can provide some sources for what you claim I'll appreciate it. But the touchscreen controller is the Texas Instrument TSC2005, which obviously is made by Texas Instruments, not Sony, and the driver for it was pushed upstream for inclusion with the Linux kernel by Nokia here.
And can you tell me what part of the Maemo licence is relevant to the touchscreen driver that I need to read (preferably with a link). Please bear in mind that it is unlikely that the licence would legally give them more rights to stop modification or reverse engineering than they would have without an explicit licence.
,the thing I do fear is the sony's claim on any modifications done to it(After all, LCD itself belongs to sony).Sony is a little aggressive, and I do fear that.
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2010-12-25
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Yeah Sony make the LCD, but that gives them absolutely no claim on the touchscreen driver, saying they would is just as ridiculous as claiming they have any rights over the graphics driver on my netbook when I hook it up to a Sony TV.
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2010-12-25
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uh, arent the LCD and touch input module two seperate parts? and i'm 90% sure Sony didnt make it, although i could be wrong.
Edit: TI made the touch module, so what's Sony doing in this thread?
Edit: TI made the touch module, so what's Sony doing in this thread?
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2010-12-25
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Originally Posted by retsaw
I think aligoodidea is right somehow, the CC mark is somewhat powerful in the U.S,and sony may misuse it, afterall,everyone wants a bigger pocket, isn't it? unfortunate but real,even HDMI T.V companies had an argue on adding 3D T.V support to the nvidia's GPU driver!(I meant for games.) for movies there are 3rd party apps supporting it already.
Yeah Sony make the LCD, but that gives them absolutely no claim on the touchscreen driver, saying they would is just as ridiculous as claiming they have any rights over the graphics driver on my netbook when I hook it up to a Sony TV.
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2010-12-25
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Can we ignore aligoodidea and get back on topic? This has nothing to do with what ever gibberish he is on about.
We have applications like the VNC server that pass through emulated single clicks already, would a second touch be impossible to pass through to the system?
If so an application that maps "touch at X , Y" when Key is pressed should not be impossible. We don't need to modify any of the PreEnv games either.
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We have applications like the VNC server that pass through emulated single clicks already, would a second touch be impossible to pass through to the system?
If so an application that maps "touch at X , Y" when Key is pressed should not be impossible. We don't need to modify any of the PreEnv games either.
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2010-12-25
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Do you guys mean something like this: (Note,Touchscreen LCD required):
Originally for windows mobile(Windows PC too). link:http://www.windowsphoneme.com/index.php?file=431
P.S:Sorry guys, please delete my replies and your post, sometimes, I do mention things with false words(And worry too much for something that's not needed to worry about).
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Originally for windows mobile(Windows PC too). link:http://www.windowsphoneme.com/index.php?file=431
P.S:Sorry guys, please delete my replies and your post, sometimes, I do mention things with false words(And worry too much for something that's not needed to worry about).
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2010-12-25
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Thanks, works for me(Winodws mobile 6), but I don't know why so many users what to laugh to you although you helped me on:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67207&page=2
Last edited by govprog; 2010-12-25 at 12:35.
Last edited by govprog; 2010-12-25 at 12:35.