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2010-11-17
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#12
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
Yes and no. MeeGo is really hype: just about nobody who talks about it has any clue of what it is or what it does or what it does differently or better than something else - on a N900 or similar. I know I don't.
I think Maemo 5 is OK. And MeeGo has no special advantages.
Anyone has the same idea ?
People have just gotten this notion that every last year's operating system is not good anymore and the new one must be so much better - even if it were underdeveloped, fragile, slow and had no applications or just some cut-down versions...
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2010-11-17
, 09:51
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I ve bought my n900 for meego.
I thought that meego was a lightweight debian based linux distribution for little mobile devices with gesture support and applications featured by IBM and other big enterprises.
But now I see that meego is not what I thought.
The speifications for meego are even higher than the specifications of a full desktop debian distribution!!!
That s the wrong way.
Such a meego is not interesting and constructors of little devices are not waiting for that.
I thought that meego was a lightweight debian based linux distribution for little mobile devices with gesture support and applications featured by IBM and other big enterprises.
But now I see that meego is not what I thought.
The speifications for meego are even higher than the specifications of a full desktop debian distribution!!!
That s the wrong way.
Such a meego is not interesting and constructors of little devices are not waiting for that.
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2010-11-17
, 10:09
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@ Yorkshire, UK
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And I thought I was the only one that was bored of the hype Meego was getting. I expected it to be a year before realistic variants were put in a phone.
I thought from reading on this forum that Meego was the saviour of Nokia, that it was going to take it to new heights. I always doubted that as Nokia don't understand many things, like time scales, competition, end world users real needs and the reality that naming conventions of something that begins with 1.x is used on a finished product and development tools should be reserved to something with a 0.x naming scheme.
Interesting to hear that perhaps meego isn't the Jesus killer OS. And I am not the one saying it. Which is nice.
I can understand the logic of making wCDMA choices, but the two largest world economines use it, and Nokia will only lose out on those lucrative markets. But what do I know, I am not on the Nokia board. Maybe they know something we don't.
I thought from reading on this forum that Meego was the saviour of Nokia, that it was going to take it to new heights. I always doubted that as Nokia don't understand many things, like time scales, competition, end world users real needs and the reality that naming conventions of something that begins with 1.x is used on a finished product and development tools should be reserved to something with a 0.x naming scheme.
Interesting to hear that perhaps meego isn't the Jesus killer OS. And I am not the one saying it. Which is nice.
I can understand the logic of making wCDMA choices, but the two largest world economines use it, and Nokia will only lose out on those lucrative markets. But what do I know, I am not on the Nokia board. Maybe they know something we don't.
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They say: Once bitten, twice shy.
I say: After the N900, never buying nokia.
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They say: Once bitten, twice shy.
I say: After the N900, never buying nokia.
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2010-11-17
, 10:22
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#15
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You have to remember that open-source MeeGo is not the same Nokia will use. So some features that won't be in open-source MeeGo will be in Nokia's MeeGo.
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2010-11-17
, 14:34
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Originally Posted by lanwellon
I needed a couple of months of tests to find the most usable and stable configuration and now I'm satisfied with my phone... oh well it would be nice to have a working fm radio application.. but we cannot have everything...
I was prepared to create a dual boot of Maemo 5 PR1.3 & MeeGo v1.1 dual boot.
But because MeeGo v1.1 is not usable at all, so I gave up this idea.
I am OK with Maemo 5 now.
So I am wondering, what is the 'killer function' of MeeGo ?
I think Maemo 5 is OK. And MeeGo has no special advantages.
Anyone has the same idea ?
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2010-11-17
, 16:46
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Good to see the misinformation slush is being pumped out at high volume.
That and the ability to actually create a "community distribution" with up to date system packages, much of which is tied down due to the closed bits of the OS that Maemo 5 still has.
MeeGo is not the end result. That last step has to be taken by those who adopt it for their devices. The N900 release of MeeGo is a reference implementation, to be used as a target for development.
The reason people are gravitating towards MeeGo is for two reasons:
- Maemo has numerous closed source parts, which limits the ability for users to truly update and fix it.
- MeeGo pulls in way more from upstream, meaning it is consistently more up to date than Maemo.
You could create a derivative of MeeGo with full support for the N900 that was completely customized in ways that you absolutely can't with Maemo. There are closed bits we can't get around but fortunately they aren't part of the OS itsef, only the device-specific periphery.
So basically your beef lies with Nokia, not MeeGo. They aren't the sole force behind it.
Indeed, that'd make you appear ignorant instead of the other guy.
You... do realize that WCDMA is GSM 3G, not the Qualcomm CDMA standard? And frankly, you can get away with WCDMA/HSPA in pretty much every country.
Originally Posted by sethkha
If you target Qt 4.7 then chances are your software will work on both MeeGo and Maemo 5.
I am with you. I think we should forget about MeeGo, and support the Developers here.
The only advantage seems to be portrait mode or the home screen itself. This will be solved in Maemo in the future i think. Most (all?) Apps will run in Maemo to.
Originally Posted by mvuori
And it shows. MeeGo is a middleware layer. It provides the software stack from the kernel up through the userspace, supplying APIs for pretty much everything you might want to do.
just about nobody who talks about it has any clue of what it is or what it does or what it does differently or better than something else - on a N900 or similar. I know I don't.
MeeGo is not the end result. That last step has to be taken by those who adopt it for their devices. The N900 release of MeeGo is a reference implementation, to be used as a target for development.
People have just gotten this notion that every last year's operating system is not good anymore and the new one must be so much better - even if it were underdeveloped, fragile, slow and had no applications or just some cut-down versions...
- Maemo has numerous closed source parts, which limits the ability for users to truly update and fix it.
- MeeGo pulls in way more from upstream, meaning it is consistently more up to date than Maemo.
You could create a derivative of MeeGo with full support for the N900 that was completely customized in ways that you absolutely can't with Maemo. There are closed bits we can't get around but fortunately they aren't part of the OS itsef, only the device-specific periphery.
Originally Posted by twigleaf1976
Jeez, you must be full of rage at all the hype the iPhone and Android get. Comparatively, MeeGo has been "on the down low."
And I thought I was the only one that was bored of the hype Meego was getting.
I thought from reading on this forum that Meego was the saviour of Nokia, that it was going to take it to new heights. I always doubted that as Nokia don't understand many things, like time scales, competition, end world users real needs and the reality that naming conventions of something that begins with 1.x is used on a finished product and development tools should be reserved to something with a 0.x naming scheme.
Interesting to hear that perhaps meego isn't the Jesus killer OS. And I am not the one saying it. Which is nice.
I can understand the logic of making wCDMA choices, but the two largest world economines use it, and Nokia will only lose out on those lucrative markets. But what do I know, I am not on the Nokia board. Maybe they know something we don't.
Originally Posted by daperl
This is not a hope thread, it's a MeeGo-bashing misinformation thread.
A hope thread? Really? I thought religion and politics weren't allowed on this site.
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2010-11-17
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#19
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Originally Posted by wmarone
I can't see much information in this thread, so it's a bit exaggerated to talk about misinformation. I don't know about WCDMA and other standards you are talking about. And I am not interested in this. You may be right in the technical aspects you mentioned. But (usable) MeeGo does not exist yet, so your points are unimportant
Good to see the misinformation slush is being pumped out at high volume.
Originally Posted by wmarone
I think the real reason is, that users have not been satisfied with Maemo. I changed my mind after PR1.3 and some hacks and apps from the devs here. Most users don't have the knowledge to fix thinks. Closed source or not
The reason people are gravitating towards MeeGo is for two reasons:
- Maemo has numerous closed source parts, which limits the ability for users to truly update and fix it.
Originally Posted by wmarone
iOS and Android exist. You can buy Phones with these and their users seem mostly satisfied with it. I personally don't want either iPhone nor Android.
Jeez, you must be full of rage at all the hype the iPhone and Android get. Comparatively, MeeGo has been "on the down low."
Originally Posted by wmarone
lol. Yes, poor little MeeGo-puh
This is not a hope thread, it's a MeeGo-bashing misinformation thread.
If there will be some MeeGo Smartphones in the future I'll consider buying one. Now with N900 there is no clue in waiting or hoping. It will sure last more than a year until there is a MeeGo ready to challenge Android or iPhone.
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2010-11-17
, 20:29
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Joined on May 2010
@ Boston, MA
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#20
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Ughhh... yet another thread begging for the introduction of a "Thanks for Nothing!" button.
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infact ill bet money it will not work properly on the n9 until at least a year after its release, this is nokia were talking about here
dont believe me?
bookmark this thread and come back in a years time (with my winnings!)
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