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#11
Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
1. If it's not random, you must known the cause - please tell Nokia, 'cos they can't reproduce it
No need, it's already listed on the bug.

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2. Read the bug concerning this issue - hiding behind some ridiculous spec designed for machine-to-machine communication doesn't cut it when discussing applications designed for humans!
That makes no sense as the spec wasn't designed for machine-to-machine communication... and if it was, it would still be valid since all communication on the internet is, you guessed it, machine-to-machine.

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3. Still a bug, and annoying
Yeah, but it happens fairly rarely. If it's something you really wanted to check out, you know where to get it.

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4. Plenty others did
A moment of silence for our fallen friends. I hope to never see this bug, or one like it, show up again.

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5. That makes it OK then!
No, no... not at all. I'm just saying that I've never really noticed it in the RSS reader because of my usage habits. Believe me, I want to see every last bug fixed even if I've never seen them before - an attitude that my boss noticed on our projects by noting "Does not have 'will not fix' in his vocabulary".

Ironically enough, as I was writing this, I noticed my RSS home applet was stuck on Refreshing, so I thought I had possibly triggered the PooF! bug... but apparently not.

Last edited by zerojay; 2007-07-24 at 15:15.
 
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#12
Just a FYI..I have lost my feeds in the past. It has only been when I was using the Vista Theme. Not sure why but, that is the only time.
 
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I've only used the default themes, so I doubt it's theme-related.
 
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zerojay - I guess we could discuss this ad inifinitum as has been done in the bug itself, but I see no reason why the RSS Feed Reader shows only 1 article in my engadget feed when I know there are 30 articles available and I haven't yet read the missing 29 articles (which the reader has "kindly" deleted). Whatever spec is being used, it's _wrong_! However, you disagree and I respect that.

Perhaps we need an option: "Delete articles I haven't had a chance to read even though they are still available in the source feed"



My main point about the RSS Feed Reader is that it's simply not up to standard... for an internet focused device, the internet focused applications should be of excellent quality (Opera barely made this grade) and in general the RSS and email apps fall well short, and they're not getting much love from Nokia with each successive firmware relase.
 
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"View expired articles"...

Opera... well, the only problem I have with it is that it was a little too old and didn't support AJAX enough. I don't know what everyone's beefs with the e-mail program is, but I'm not a heavy e-mail user anyways.

Could be that they are saving the love for Chinook.
 
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Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
"View expired articles"...
Except they've *not* expired. If I've not looked at, opened or in any way otherwise interacted with any RSS applet or application, why should articles be considered expired?

They should expire in one of two situations:

1) I've read them and didn't tick "Save for later"
2) They've been deleted/expired from the upstream feed.

Expiring on automated update is just plain broken, and I've yet to here anything *close* to a reasonable argument that it's not. Where's the UCD here?

I don't know what everyone's beefs with the e-mail program is, but I'm not a heavy e-mail user anyways.
1) Broken quoting.
2) Usage of HTML components for plain text emails.
3) Slow.
4) ...

There's lots more, but really I couldn't tell you anymore. I've not used it since OS 2005.

There's no point defending it either, Nokia have realised it's broken or they wouldn't be investing in Modest & Tinymail!
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Originally Posted by aflegg View Post
There's no point defending it either, Nokia have realised it's broken or they wouldn't be investing in Modest & Tinymail!
I'm not really defending it, I just really didn't know. All I heard from people all the time was that it was crap and never any reasons for why it was crap. Of course, it more or less fits my needs, but I have more modest needs for e-mail than quite a lot of you, by the looks of it.

EDIT: um... I think posting in this topic has killed my RSS feed reader. Ever since about noon, my home applet will no longer update and the RSS feed reader app just doesn't open... argh.

Last edited by zerojay; 2007-07-24 at 20:30.
 
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